Book: Dies The Fire

While I really like Lord of the Rings the grey at the end of my name suggests more trying to see in the grey area between opposing points of view . It is often there where resolution and the truth abides .
 
I,ll hunt around for a copy . I have to admit I often trade books or hunt for them at second hand shops . It is rare I shell out twenty bucks or more for a book .
It is not that they are not worth it I just can,t do it very often .
 
Don't worry, it is in paper back. Check out Amazon and you probably can get a used copy.

I found Lucifer's Hammer really boring also until the comet hit. There was too much lead up and too little post impact fiction.

Maybe we could come up with a list of fiction books on the topic.
 
rebeltf, thanks for the info on "Patriot", I'm going to get a copy.

I realized yesterday that I had loaned out my copy of "Dies the Fire", so I went down to a used book store and got another copy. I'm glad this thread came up, I needed to get my head out of the manuals I've been reading lately.:yawn:
 
I'm working my way through the sequel, "The Protectors War" now. It's as interesting to me as the first one, and thought provoking. Gave me a bit of an urge to dust off my old bow and do some practice.
 
Not too many used book stores up my way and even less in English . I,ll check out amazon . I have to say I am reading three books now and hunting will start to take priority for a while .
 
mymindisamob said:
rebeltf, thanks for the info on "Patriot", I'm going to get a copy.

I realized yesterday that I had loaned out my copy of "Dies the Fire", so I went down to a used book store and got another copy. I'm glad this thread came up, I needed to get my head out of the manuals I've been reading lately.:yawn:
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You will not be sorry you bought it , if anyone else is interested you should hurry because copies are getting harder to come across.
 
Yes, I must agree 'Lucifer's Hammer' is pretty slow and boring until the comet hits, then it gets pretty ok.
Another one you all might enjoy is 'Survivor' by Robert Steele Gray. A regular Joe six-pack guy gets transported back in time to Stone Age America, and , yes you've guessed it, has to survive. Not great but an ok read.
 
jackknife said:
I'm working my way through the sequel, "The Protectors War" now. It's as interesting to me as the first one, and thought provoking. Gave me a bit of an urge to dust off my old bow and do some practice.
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I'm having to change my mind on this book, "The Protectors War".

It started out pretty decent, but went downhill quickly. Aside from bouncing back and forth too much, it started going farther and farther astray into the wicca thing. He's made the whole witchcraft thing into a major part of the plot, and it's gotten borring. Spending way too much plot time and page space on looonng wiccan stuff. This book is nowhere as intersting as the first one.

But the worst is that S.M. Stirling stole whole dialogues from another book. There is a whole scene in Stirlings book that is lifted right out of Larry McMurty's book/made into movie "Lonesome Dove" . He did not even try to change the dialogue much but a word ot two. When an author resorts to that kind of lack of imagination and plot thievery, I loose interest real fast. Then he has two of the charaters discussing something right out of J.K. Rowlings, Harry Potter books. I know them well because I read Harry Potter books to my grandkids, as well as take them to the movies.

I got about 2/3 to 3/4 of the book read, but its in the trash can now with no plans to ever waste one single second on another S.M. Stirling book.
 
Finished "Dies the Fire". Good read. I will be starting the next one after I read "The Rift" by Walter J. Williams, all 932 pages. I sort of blow over the Wicca stuff as I'm not very interested in their "teachings".
 
I want to thank you all for the great books you suggested. Due to this thread I read "Dies the Fire" and purchased/read the "Patriot" book. I would never have heard of them if it wasn't for this post.

I really liked the Patriot book! Dies the Fire was really great for the first half but for me suffered the second half with the anti-christian/pro wiccan stuff.
 
jackknife said:
I'm having to change my mind on this book, "The Protectors War".

It started out pretty decent, but went downhill quickly. Aside from bouncing back and forth too much, it started going farther and farther astray into the wicca thing. He's made the whole witchcraft thing into a major part of the plot, and it's gotten borring. Spending way too much plot time and page space on looonng wiccan stuff. This book is nowhere as intersting as the first one.

But the worst is that S.M. Stirling stole whole dialogues from another book. There is a whole scene in Stirlings book that is lifted right out of Larry McMurty's book/made into movie "Lonesome Dove" . He did not even try to change the dialogue much but a word ot two. When an author resorts to that kind of lack of imagination and plot thievery, I loose interest real fast. Then he has two of the charaters discussing something right out of J.K. Rowlings, Harry Potter books. I know them well because I read Harry Potter books to my grandkids, as well as take them to the movies.

I got about 2/3 to 3/4 of the book read, but its in the trash can now with no plans to ever waste one single second on another S.M. Stirling book.
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I am a bit over halfway though "Protector's War", and I must say it isn't a good read. The premise of a "shift in the laws of physics" I can overlook. The fact that people world wide go back to medivel armor and weapons? Aww...gimme a break! Well, it is a slow read for me and I have a hard time NOT putting it down. The only reason I continue with it is that sometimes books have slow spots that have to be waded through. Maybe this is one of them. Still, I can't help but feel that Harry Turtledove would have done the book much better, even with the prerequisite suspension of reality. After this, do I even want to buy "Dies the fire"?

Yeah, let me get in another dig. A very tedious attempt to mash in Gaelic, old English, Aussie, and other "olde languages", not to mention cultures and religions. It makes for a very hard read, hard to stay interested.

Codger
 
Yup. It was there and I needed a read. I had no idea there was a one and two. At this point, I'm beginning to think this book must be a rushed sequel like MIB2.

Codger
 
Just got through reading Cammac McCarthy's (sp?) "The Road".

It is about surviving during a nuclear winter, very grim...

Jerry
 
FYI, on Amazon right now, Patriots is listing from $71, used, to $208 for a used collectable copy :eek:
 
I bought my Patriots on Ebay for $35. A lot of money but for me it was worth it.
Codger 64, I am almost done with "The Protectors War" and it is not nearly as good as the first "Dies the Fire". I would recommend reading it.
 
jackknife said:
I'm working my way through the sequel, "The Protectors War" now. It's as interesting to me as the first one, and thought provoking. Gave me a bit of an urge to dust off my old bow and do some practice.
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I know what you mean. All of a sudden I'm looking at swords.... thinking what is a good cheap one that won't break easily and will hold and edge?

Reading the second Stirling book now "The Protector's War" after finishing "The Rift". So far I like it. Not big on the wicca stuff, but I just skim that junk.
 
I can't figure out the Wicca thing... Stirling has a reputation as an old-school Heinlein-type libertarian pragmatist, so I'd be hard-pressed to believe he believes the Wicca stuff himself... Perhaps he lost a bet?
 
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