Boss jack vs basic 6

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Nealgl1985

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I was just wondering which one you would choose and why. This is based on if you could only afford one or the other. This will be a user. It seems like they are very similar in size and price. I like the handle on the war dog but have never handled paper or any busse knife for that matter. I bought a war dog to give my dad on fathers day so I've handled that type of handle. Thanks is advance for your point of view on the two.
 
The Boss Jack all day long. Its a better made knife in my opinion. The Micarta or G10 handle will hold up much better than the res-c. I'd rather have 3 tube fasteners holding on a solid handle over one tube fastener with a rubber handle. Plus the boss jack is a full, edge to edge tang. I saw the cut away away view of the Res-C handles with their slim tang, and it was considerably narrower. I dont know why people are so impressed with these Basic series knives, when Busse has built its rep on tough as tanks knives. Why would you compromise?
 
The full height convex grind of the BJ would make the edge hardier, whilst the basic 6 flat grind could (theoretically) get much sharper..
Satin finish against coated blade, which would add slightly more resistance when cutting/chopping..

It's tough to just choose one!
 
adrock1978 said:
The Boss Jack all day long. Its a better made knife in my opinion. The Micarta or G10 handle will hold up much better than the res-c. I'd rather have 3 tube fasteners holding on a solid handle over one tube fastener with a rubber handle. Plus the boss jack is a full, edge to edge tang. I saw the cut away away view of the Res-C handles with their slim tang, and it was considerably narrower. I dont know why people are so impressed with these Basic series knives, when Busse has built its rep on tough as tanks knives. Why would you compromise?
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Do you have any photos or vidoes of you comparing a normal Micarta/G10 handle compared to a Res-C?
 
The specs between the knives aren't to different so It boils down to which handle material grind and design appeals to you more.
 
BigLebowski65 said:
Probably a BJ for me, the choil on new Basics is too large for my liking.

You are talking out of your ass, pal. Not cool.
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Excuse me? I'm not your pal, and I'm not talking out of my *backside* *noodle* head. So save your ignorant comments. Anyone can tell you a G10 handled knife will hold up much better to any kind of chemical reactions, or degradation from sunlight, or anything you can throw at it compared to Res-C. You ever try to cut into G10? I've busted carbide blades trying to make my own G10 slabs for my Boss Jack. A simple box cutter can make short work of a Res-C handle. I took a giant chunk out of the res-c on my dog father, with one bad swing into a log. Never saw that happen to micarta or G10. And simple physics can tell you that a tapered tang at 1/2" wide, or whatever it is under the Res-C wont be as strong as a full 1 inch+ wide tang on a boss jack. I'm not saying the basic tang is brittle, or weak. It just wont be as strong. And again, moving on to the tube fasteners. What sounds stronger to you, one tube faster at the far end, or 3 tube fasteners equally spaced down the knife? If I'm spending my money on a bomb proof knife, its going to be the knife with better materials, and more of it in all the right places.


Josh Sollenberger said:
Do you have any photos or vidoes of you comparing a normal Micarta/G10 handle compared to a Res-C?
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No. What I have had is several knives in both materials. What I have is experience with busted Res-C handles. I dont need a video of myself hammering a knife in a vice to tell me G10 is stronger than rubber. Theres a reason full tanged, G10 knives are more expensive then their "basic" counter parts in the busse world.

Now... besides all that common sense, what I also have is my right to an opinion, which is what he asked for. Its not like I came in and said Basics, with their RES-C handles are garbage, and will fall apart in no time.

Jesus... tough crowd.
 
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So adrock1978 do you feel that res-c has no positive attributes, or does it have to many downsides to make it an option you would consider? Or are you basing this on "you can only have one so why not get the better one" scenario? And when you say busted res-c do you mean complete and total failure or damaged but not to the point of complete failure?
 
Very subjective question. What are your plans for the use? Will it be an everything knife or specific? kitchen duty, cutting boxes, slicing paper, whittling, hiking knife, edc?

If you like the feel of the res-c on the wardog, and find it comfortable (I do) then maybe you would go with the basic. If you would prefer to have a choiless blade then the boss jack would be in your wheel house.

I have many blades in this general size range with handles ranging from wood to micarta to g10 and resc and different blade profiles from flat to saber to convex. Personally I like variety and look at the positives of the combinations as opposed to the negatives.
 
This is gonna be a fun thread...It'll make for some good late night entertainment until the mods break it up...popcorn anyone!?! :cool:
 
would go with the BJ as well. I agree with adrock on the attributes of the handle material. I like res c and it has its high points for sure, but I would take the g 10 over it in this case.
 
Allcaps321 said:
So adrock1978 do you feel that res-c has no positive attributes, or does it have to many downsides to make it an option you would consider? Or are you basing this on "you can only have one so why not get the better one" scenario? And when you say busted res-c do you mean complete and total failure or damaged but not to the point of complete failure?
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I feel res-c has many positive attributes. None, other than maybe comfort or vibration dampening would outway the benefits of G10 or Micarta for me. And like I said, its not just the Res-C. Its the tapered tang underneath as well. Yes, when someone obviously new here, comes in and seems to pose a budget minded question of only ONE or the other, I would point them toward the "better" built knife. A lot of guys around here have endless budgets and throw around the idea of "just buy both... keep 6 of them in a safe... this knife is too pretty to use." Thats not me. Although I've owned more than 20 busse/kin knives, I'm down to 6 hardcore users and every one of them better give me my money's worth. When I say "busted", no... not complete and total failure. Far from it. I'm talking about small chunks taken out from hitting rough edges. Still very useable, very tough knives. I try to buy everything like its the last one I'll buy. If I'm going to drop $300 on a knife, it better not have "basic" any where in its name. (At least not if a comparable one with G10 and a full tang for $30 more is available) I loved my Dog Father, which had a RES-C handle. It was a beast of a chopper for $200 and change. I sold it though in favor of a more expensive Battle Mistress.

In my mind, the strongest attributes of the Basic line, and the Scrap Yard knives, are the price. Great knives, for affordable prices. As soon as they reach close to what you'd pay for a typical Busse though, I have no use for them.
 
Well, you said you got the War Dog and liked it, then I say go with the Basic 6. It's going to be an Limited Edition at an unbelievable price with a satin INFI. That is going to be avil for 10 days and will never be offered again. I don't see how you can go wrong. This is based on what I think is best for you, not me or anyone else. Just simple things you stated.
Either way, you won't lose cause it's a Busse!
Dan
 
Just a quick side note, you can throw a stick into the end of your reciprene c handle and it will hold on just fine. You can't do that with the g10 and tube fasteners. The tube fasteners are not super strong, they are not a particularly good method of making a "Bomb Proof" knife because they will move immediately upon being hit with force from a baton. They are a compromise for manufacturing to strength, where you get enough strength for most uses for most people while being able to be quickly made with the fewest parts possible.

While you do have to strike them with a decent amount of force - I've sheered them more than once with 2" batons. The strength of your g10 is meaningless if the method of holding the material to the knife is 1/10 of the strength. If you replace them with screws and stand offs it makes it a lot stronger and less likely to sheer.
 
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I'd also choose the Boss Jack, given I could only get one or the other.
The res-c is very comfortable and does absorb shock. How ever you can quickly tell which one will last longer by a quick toss down your driveway, the res- c will scuff and wear considerably faster, if your compairing, not to metion, squirrels will take care of it quick if ya left it unattended over night in the woods.
 
Dr barnes... I go camping and hunting. So it would be for outdoor uses. Definitely not a EDC, a little large for my EDC needs. Last visible canary... Very interesting point on the fasteners going before the handle material. Liu kang... I was leaning towards the basic because of such limited production, the handle, and there's something about the satin that I really like. Everyone makes good points and I enjoy reading what people with busse experience think about different models. Thanks again for everyone's thoughts on the subject. I might be leaning towards the basic but we will see. I might just have to get them both. I was just trying to get one blade in each size. It would have been a lot easier to decide if they released the basic 10 first. Only time will tell.
 
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