bought a remington knife...need info

Really? Why would anyone counterfeit a remington? I would think counterfeiters would go after a more desirable pattern than a stockman....

Unless, of course, you're just kidding and I played right into it! :confused:
 
I'm not kidding. It's the wrong size for the pattern number, it's been repinned, the bone is not old Rem bone, the blades are modern, the stamp is not an old stamp.
 
The Remington R3993 was/is 3 5/8" closed. You say your knife is 3 7/8". That's a 1/4" difference.

The following is not meant to be snarky.

Do your homework and really research any older knife you are interested in getting. You said yourself:

.im not up on remington reproductions
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That's not the way to buy knives, especially the old ones. Get some books on what you're interested in collecting. A good book on Remington Knives is titled "Remington Knives, Past & Present, Identification & Value Guide" by Ron Stewart and Roy Ritchie. It cost pennies but can save you a huge amount of dollars when buying and collecting. Of course there are other books on Remington and other knives and then there's the Internet.

If you had a picture of an original R3993 you would see that the nail nick on the original is shorter than the one on your knife. Your nail nick appears to extend all the way to the tang while the nail nick on the original stops short of the nail nick. The clip point also appears to be less pronounced than on the original too - your clip point is not as up-swept as the original.

I may be all wet but I don't think you've got an original or authorized copy.

EDITED TO ADD: I didn't notice your last post just above mine when I posted and don't be so blatant about posting copyrighted pictures. It's not so cool.
 
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I think steel's got a good one there. and, it looks to be in great condition. is there any etch left on the blade. sometimes its so light you can hardly see it. the bone looks like original rem bone there will be variations in it. blades look right and there may be variations in blade shapes especially over a near 20 year period of some these old remington patterns being made. you should look it up in a newer knife book. sargent's maybe.
 
im skeptical they would have changed the size...the bolsters and the blade shape.....but id love to hear from someone who does have some newer books
 
I was hesitant to post this earlier since I didn't want to add to the confusion... but I have multiple catalog scans of the R3993 and the early examples have square bolsters and the later examples have round bolsters. Both are the same size. I don't know if there was a change or if it was a common misprint. The round bolster version obviously exists (you found a photo of it).

None of this changes my comments on the knife that you bought.






steeltowninwv said:
r3993 2 by steeltowninwv, on Flickr
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Man we all have been burnt so there's no embarrassment.
Listen to Ed and Jake. they are telling you what you need to know- look at old catalogues - look at the old knives shown here - buy of known people.
I would keep that knife you bought- ok it's not a Rem but it's not a bad looking user- gently file that stamping of - finish it with fine sandpaper and use the heck out of it - or do the removal of the stamp- and gift it to a young up and coming Traditionalist.
 
Good info Jake :thumbup: Sorry you got scammed OP :thumbup:
 
i do apprecitae all the info guys...i guys its just a fake..the good thing about this whole deal is i bought it off ebay(just an impulse buy that i figured i had to move quick on) i contacted the seller before he shipped the knife and pointed out all of these things....he just denied evrything but did refund my money...he now has it listed on there again for sale as genuine
 
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