bought an imported schrade

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a1boy

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...and its crap ! ! :grumpy:
it was an impulse buy from a local store,
and I didn't see the 'china' stamp on the tang,
and I didn't know Schrade had shut down (or anything about Schrade knives apart from remembering seeing them sometimes in threads)

the shield on the handle popped out, one of the blades came bent so that it wouldn't hit another blade when it's closed... and it felt like it was starting to crumble from metal on metal with opening and closing before I got it home to oil it.

I feel the only cure is to buy a decent one and quickly, am looking at the buck solo now.
 
Sorry about your knife. It sounds like you should have returned it to the local store once you realized it wasn't what you wanted. It probably would have survived intact during the trip home and back again.

In any case, hopefully you'll find a knife that does suit your needs soon enough.
Many folks here on the forums are happy with their Rough Rider, Colt and Steel Warrior knives from China so apparently they do make some worthy knives.

Please take a look at our guidelines for the forum to avoid taking this thread into the area of "China Bashing" which is something we do not allow here.

Feel free to critique any traditional knife you wish but let's leave politics, current events and other hot button issues for discussion elsewhere. Thanks.
 
Sorry to read about your knife. I feel if you want a cheap slippie with decent workmanship you should try out the rough rider line. I have a couple and I like them for a budget blade. Good luck in your search for that slippie. :)
 
Don't feed the Dragon:thumbdn:



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You need to read the same guidelines referred to above. This isn't the political or current events sub-forum.
 
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a1boy said:
...and its crap ! ! :grumpy:
the shield on the handle popped out, one of the blades came bent so that it wouldn't hit another blade when it's closed... and it felt like it was starting to crumble from metal on metal with opening and closing before I got it home to oil it
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Hi,

Sorry to hear of your experience. I've looked at the new Schrade's myself. I think they're getting better than the first Taylor made ones. But, I still prefer my Rough Riders. Though I'm getting the urge to try a new Colt or two.

I'm just curious, when you say that one of the blades was bent to clear another, you do know that on a two spring Stockman one of the blades is always bent, (krinked), to clear when closed? Sometimes it appears to be a lot. I have a couple of vintage Schrade 108OT's that the Sheep's Foot has been krinked a lot to get it to fit between the clip and pen blades. They do looked badly bent when opened. This is why some prefer Buck's three spring wide style of Stockman.

Dale
 
a1boy said:
...and its crap ! ! :grumpy:
it was an impulse buy from a local store,
and I didn't see the 'china' stamp on the tang,
and I didn't know Schrade had shut down (or anything about Schrade knives apart from remembering seeing them sometimes in threads)

the shield on the handle popped out, one of the blades came bent so that it wouldn't hit another blade when it's closed... and it felt like it was starting to crumble from metal on metal with opening and closing before I got it home to oil it.

I feel the only cure is to buy a decent one and quickly, am looking at the buck solo now.
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Bear in mind that the Buck Solo (one of my favorite slippies, by the way) is also made overseas!!
Don't let the quality of a bad knife make any one country seem unworthy. As has been said, Rough Riders, Buck, Colt, Steel Warriors, etc, make excellent knives. Manufacturers in China, and ANYWHERE for that matter, will make what they are asked to make. If cheap, disposable knives are what they are contracted for (and there certainly is a market for that among none knife people), they will make just that. If a company like Buck or Rough Rider wants high QC and a decent product at a decent price, they can do that as well. I think the old argument of judging a knife by where it's made is definitely passe. Your best bet would be to go somewhere where you can handle them, feel them, open/close them, etc. in person and see what YOU like. That's the way to go.
 
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Take a look in the Manufacturers sub forums. There is a Schrade sub forum, and the knowledge there is incredible.

As already mentioned, the stockman will usually have a bent blade for clearance.

I'm not doubting what you say, but have a hard time with the blades crumbling from opening and closing.
No, they are not made at the same level as the real Schrades, but it should still be a serviceable knife.

The Buck would be a great choice, even the overseas versions. Although IIRC, Buck has brought back production of all their knives to the U.S...
Plus, they stand behind their products 110%.

You can't go wrong with a Case, U.S Schrade, Buck, or even as Elliott mentioned, Rough Riders which are very inexpensive but get great reviews
 
wackafew said:
Don't feed the Dragon:thumbdn:



EDIT BY MODERATOR:

You need to read the same guidelines referred to above. This isn't the political or current events sub-forum.
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Sorry I didn't realize I made a political statment. He said he bought a chinese Schrade and it was crap.:grumpy:
 
This forum works on one basic premise. Post with respect.
If you need details on how that works read the guidelines.
 
wackafew said:
Sorry I didn't realize I made a political statment. He said he bought a chinese knife and it was crap.:grumpy:
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Send me an email or PM and let me know what your statement meant.

If you meant to indicate the OP was being a "troll" and not to feed the trolls, it's one thing.

If you were referring to China as the "dragon" and stating that one should not do business with ("feed") China, then your statement was inappropriate for this forum.

In either case, further discussion or arguing it here is the wrong venue.
Send me a PM or email and I'll be happy to hear your point of view. And if I was wrong in what I took your statement to mean I will be happy to say so here as well.

Now, let's get back to the discussion of the knives.
 
China seems to be able to produce whatever the marketer is willing to pay for. I've had a few Chinese Schrades, and they were pretty bad. Poor grinds, unfinished edges and corners, the lot. Of the Rough Riders, though, the quality seems a few notches higher- my Canoe is imperfect, but still far better than its price tag.

What I'd like to see is RR get rid of the matchstrike pulls. They look nice, but are often far too shallow to allow good purchase on the blade.
 
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What I'd like to see is RR get rid of the matchstrike pulls. They look nice, but are often far too shallow to allow good purchase on the blade.
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How about if they just deepen them a tad rather than get rid of them. I've always been partial to a matchstrike pull and have often selected a matchstrike knife over another just because of the matchstrike nail nick.
 
Before you give up on your Old Timers, you can still get USA made knives through certain online sources. It is fairly common to find good EDC knives at reasonable prices if you look hard enough.

Chuck
 
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How about if they just deepen them a tad rather than get rid of them. I've always been partial to a matchstrike pull and have often selected a matchstrike knife over another just because of the matchstrike nail nick.
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Hi,

I guess I've always found RR's nicks to be deep enough for me. And I do tend to like a matchstrike pull too. But not every blade needs one. Sometime a simple, smooth half-moon nick looks good too.

Dale
 
it would have been ok if the blade was bent at the base of it right at the tang, but it was pretty much curving on the cutting edge, how are you supposed to easily sharpen that?? I've bent it straight since.

the sheepsfoot blade, the bent one, also when closed is still fairly high up making the knifes overall profile a bit bigger, I can see why they'd do it though, so you can open it without opening the big blade in front, but if they put the thumbnail groove on the other side of the blade it would have been better, and when you look side on the big blade covers the thumbnail groove anyway.

I wasn't trying to say that everything from China should be avoided, it certainly wasn't in my train of thought when I wrote the original post. It would be pretty bias to generalize and complain about all Chinese knives, but if I get a crap knife I want to complain.
 
I haven't looked at the Schrades in a couple of years, but the last time I did they were not very good quality. If you want to compare them to other overseas made slipjoints, I have a Rough Rider and a Steel Warrior and the Schrades I checked out back then were not even remotely close to the same quality. I've been hoping they would get better with time, but it sounds like that might not be happening.
 
You can still find the US made ones in your local hardware stores. Thats where I found my Uncle Henry. I looked at the imported ones in the display and they didn't look bad to me. Perhaps you just got a second.
 
I don't think I've ever seen any in hardware stores here (I live in Australia) but buying online works for me.
 
I bought a buck Stockman and Solo(the models manufactured in China), they came as a package for $50 Australian dollars off an American eBay seller. I really like them :D and they seem to be really good quality to me, even came sharp. The Solo is a lot smaller than I thought it would be now that I hold it in my hand. The Stockman gets a bit of pocket carry time when I'm at work. They are so much better than the Schrade! Like when I close and open the blades they'll snap shut and open when they're almost closed or open, unlike the Schrade that felt like it only half heartedly sprung open once it only had less than a few millimeters of travel left and then felt far from a solid lockup, (non-locking knife but you know what I mean).

I think I'll try a rough rider or two in the future.
 
I've changed the title of this thread as "bought a Chinese Schrade" just seemed to send the wrong message (or a bad vibe imho). I think the new title gets the point across just as well without bordering on being offensive. (Not implying that any offense was intended.)
 
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