Well i finally tried it. I got my lazy butt up and tried to make a fire with a bow and drill. Me and my little nephew went to the woods with our sheath knives and ax and we tried it. He had all the confidence in the world in me making fire cause to him i am the coolest uncle in the world. I am ex Army infantry, and a gulf war veteran....Well ,,,,,,it didnt happen. I could not do it for anything in the world. Oh i got smoke but thats all i got. Well i also got a cut on the thumb and my leg but other than that. Thats it!...Now i know the meaning of practice makes perfect means. I really thought it would be easy. Man was i wrong......Ill try again tommorrow....Just thought i would share that.