Thought I'd give primitive fire making a go, might be a handy skill some day and I'd love to pass it along to my son and his Scout troop as well. Only problem is, I just can't get it right. I have two wood choices in my area, oak and cedar. I figured cedar was softer so that's what I've been working with. I think I've got all the parts right but I'm having a real problem keeping the rope from slipping on the drill. I've scouted the area but can't find any pine pitch near me and I'm trying my best to do this proper using only locally available materials (with the exception of the rope.) Have you guys got any suggestions that might help me get a better bite on the drill? I've managed several times to get pretty good smoke but nothing like an ember yet. I'm getting a little discouraged so any advice or support would be welcome.