Boxcutters and knives are illegal in airports so...

I'm betting knives and boxcutters...:p

Sure its a double standard, but how else are they going to open boxes? What about food service in the airports? They can't have knives to prepare food? I'm sure they do...
 
Hey, wait a sec, you're scaring me again.

When you say boxcutters and knives are illegal in airports does that include to transport them in your luggage?

I'm going to be moving to another country hopefully soon and most probably I'll be travelling over the US. Ofcourse, I can't live without my edc and combat knife so i really need to know.

Thanks.

Emanuel
 
If you put them in your checked luggage, you won't have any problems in the US.

Mike
 
Since when did they become illegal in airports? I know you can't carry them on airplanes, but I have heard nothing about not being able to walk through an airport with a knife. Of course you can't carry them through the check points, but until you reach that point I thought it was ok to carry a knife.


Edited because I spelled airplanes wrong.:rolleyes:
 
Actually I meant the "sterile/security area" of all US airports. I was also referring to some recent California legislation (and I usually cite a reference but I can't find the magazine right now) that criminalizes knife and boxcuter possession in the security area. So... what do vendors do? Paramedics? Firefighters? Police? The other issue is that when you get off an international flight and get your luggage you are technically still in the sterile/security area until you clear customs WITH YOUR CHECKED LUGGAGE AND ITS CONTENTS.

This was actually a serious question. Assuming there are still vendors behind the secure areas of major US airports. What do they use to open boxes?

(BTW, maybe all the vendors are gone from US airport security areas. With only one exception for a family emergency I haven't flown for the last several years. Way back in 2000 my wife and I decided to stop flying due to the extreme decline in the quality and timliness of US airlines. In 2000 my wife and I were subjected to FIVE cancelled flights and we concluded that the airlines did not want us as customers).
 
I have a buddy that works for Southwest in Oakland California as a member of the ground crew and pre 9-11 he carried a knife at work, something his supervisor did himself and whole-heartedly approved of. Post 9-11 he is no longer allowed to carry a knife on him in to the secured area where he works.
 
Originally posted by Rev. Pete
Actually I meant the "sterile/security area" of all US airports. So... what do vendors do? Paramedics? Firefighters? Police? The other issue is that when you get off an international flight and get your luggage you are technically still in the sterile/security area until you clear customs WITH YOUR CHECKED LUGGAGE AND ITS CONTENTS.
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According to FAA regulations, authorized personnel are allowed to carry and use a knife if it's within their scope of work inside the Security area. These include EMS, Airport Security, and others.
This was actually a serious question. Assuming there are still vendors behind the secure areas of major US airports. What do they use to open boxes?
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The boxes are opened before they enter the Security area, so there's no need for one. But those in the food service area are, and have, the use of knives. I was able to get plastic knives from most food concession stands last time I travelled. Need something to cut those pancakes.
 
A couple months ago I was flying out of LAX (Los Angeles) and was early for my flight. I went in to the Chili's to get a bite to eat. The menu had a big note on the front apologising because due to new security concerns, certain food items listed on the menu were currently not available. Among the items listed were Fajitas and Nachos Supreme. When I asked the waitress about the last time was that someone hi-jacked an airliner with some Nachos, she informed me that they could no longer have real knives in the kitchen to prepare these dishes with.

I'm not kidding.

I'm sure that McDonalds has no problems as their stuff is all pre prepared, and I'm sure Chili's will be moving in that direction, but for now, no Nachos!

jmx
 
That's not the real reason! If you eat nachos before the flight you´ll be farting all over during the flight due to the lower preasure of the cabin.
 
To shed what light I can on things...

I work at the Anchorage Internation Airport, and I'm pretty good friends with some of the Porters and a couple of Ramp guys.

The porters do the same thing I do, which is to carry whatever they darn well please, as long as it doesn't go past the security point, as far as I'm aware, you're fine and legal that way. Otherwise people'd be gettin' in trouble while unloading thier cars.

The Rampers on the other hand are forbidden to carry knives. But, many of them do it anyways. Usually in the form of a Leatherman. Everyonce in awhile it'll be on them, but such tools are usually left concealed somewhere in the truck until the moment they need it. I've heard stories of guys forgetting they had them at a screening point and having thier airport badge pulled.

My brother is also a Mechanic at the Airport, and I know he carries a Leatherman and a SOG knife I gave him to work, but I'll ask him for info as well.
 
My brother is an airplane mechanic at my local airport too. He carries a multitool, a cold steel medium clip point voyager and a spydie police.

He says that the area he works in is not under airport security rules. He never has to go through a check point because the building he works in is technically not inside the airport. The snap-on guy and mac tools guy both come around there and sell knives and tools to him and his coworkers. He bought me a chive for my birthday from the mac tools guy inside the hangar!

He told me that as far as he knows, the only thing that'll get you in trouble is carrying a knife past the security checkpoint inside the airport.
 
I work for the Transportation Security Administration. Trust me, it's a crappy job to halve to Grandpa from his trusty old Case, and Grandm from her tiny scissors. No knives of any length are allowed past the checkpoint unless you are a LEO. Im actually not sure if the restaraunts are allowed to use knives to cut things up...the fast food joints don't really need them. I carry my Sebenza into the airport and lock it in the employee lockers that are outside of the Secure area.

I hope to see more common sence restrictions soon. I see no proplems with small keychain knives and small scissors. I don't see how they are any more dangerouse than Knitting needles that are now allowed. Just last week we were cleared to allow those small military P-38 style can openers through the checkpoint...yeeehaw!
 
P.S

You are allowed to check any edged weapon you want into your checked baggage. If you do forget to check it and bring it to the checkpoint at our airport we give you the option to mail the item back to yourself at your cost of course.

The most seen "quality" item i see are

#1 Leathermans of all sizes
#2 Swiss Army Knives Usually on a keychain
#3 Slip Joints of variouse quality

Most stupid thing i have seen!
We had a guy surrender a Benchmade 705 AND a Cold Steel master hunter after a Elk hunt here in Utah...he wasnt even late for his flight. It killed me because apparently all abandoned knives will be melted down.
 
Ahh ok...what about military? Can they carry knives? So if you're a LEO, basically any folder will be legal? That's cool.

Nice to know about the mail-home policy, Fuzzysoxs...that's my worst nightmare, having to surrender one of my $80-120 EDCs (maybe someday I'll ahve some worth more) to the melt down process because I forgot. *whew*

Warthog
 
Leo's on duty at the at the airport are ok to carry as they please....Off duty LEO's can't as far as i know. All LEO's who need to carry any weapon are cleared though the LEO at the Checkpoint.
 
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