Boycott Singapore

[Sylvrfalcn]

This thread has lots of valid points from a broad spectrum of perspectives, but I have to honestly admit, I've never lost a minute's sleep over criminals reaping what they've sown. My sympathy lies with the honest citizens who are daily victimized by crime, theirs are the rights I'm more concerned about preserving.

Sarge

 

[munk]

Norm
for the record, withdrawal from chronic alcoholism has long been defined by the profession as a Medical Emergency. This opinion is not dependant upon Spectre's knowing a friend in the recovery profession. Actually, you all have a friend in the recovery profession- me, and others like me here on this forum.

IT's a medical emergency because you can die. Stroke, heart attack, vein in throat popping; you name it. Withdrawal from any of the opiates is not a medical emergency, it is the flu.

Naturally, it's the flu with a host of behavioral lifestyle changes to be made afterwards.

People die from opiates because their breathing stops, and other involuntary muscle stoppages. The argument for legalization has often said that if the product were legal and consistant, there would be less accidental overdose. The truth with any drug is that one is inviting suicide. Goes with the territory. Opiates do not cause organic nerve damage- unless one stops breathing, in which case one gets all the damage available.

I agree with Specte and others about legalization. I think it's time we paid our money and took our chances. But all these topics, death penalty, drugs, are of value judgements and there is no absolute. While I think opiates should be legal, there are certainly chemicals which are too dangerous- a value judgement, like the death penalty, societies have the right to make.

edit- Spectre- with all your moves and lifestyle changes, do I have a valid address for you? I need one.

munk

 

[MauiRob]

for the record, withdrawal from chronic alcoholism has long been defined by the profession as a Medical Emergency. This opinion is not dependant upon Spectre's knowing a friend in the recovery profession. Actually, you all have a friend in the recovery profession- me, and others like me here on this forum

They certainly treat it that way in teaching EMS classes in my (limited) experience. ANd from my personal experience it can be dangerous. I had a doctor very sternly warn me against stopping anywhere near cold turkey. So, I tapered off slowly--which any addict will tell you is no fun.

 

[munk]

I've gone through the DT's both in hospital and out. I've no wish ever to go through them again. I can't even tell you how many times I've been through them.

When I don't sleep well, my memory is particulary affected, and it is then you guys get a brain damaged mod. I'm OK- but don't have the fortitude or resilience I would have had.

I wrote that in a letter this am. You guys are basically getting gypped- you have me, the brain damaged moderator.

I wish I had the tools I had before I broke them. But I don't, and we call that life.

In a way, I get an almost perverse satisfaction out of this. Well, not perverse- how can I say this? I'm going forward and doing the things I would do. It was never about how fast one ran, or if one was the smartest or best qualified, it was always about the will to do.

In this way we see men and women with painful burdons do great works. We see the plodders of the world get ahead, and the day glow colored Bright Lights gossip cruely amongst themselves with their small licey fears.

There is a place in our society for the best birthed and brightest to do little or nothing- we call those places Hollywood and Congress.

There are men in this forum I respect greatly.


munk

 

[littleknife]

I'm OK- but don't have the fortitude or resilience I would have had.
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I wish I had the tools I had before I broke them. But I don't, and we call that life.

Munk, judging from your posts your "brain damage" is far-far from making you disfunctional.
You have a wisdom and eloquence the so called non-brain-damaged fellas just wish they had.

There are men in this forum I respect greatly.

And you, Munk, are definitely amongst those whom I respect.