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Bradley Alias I/II Vs. HK34FDP/BM 14200

GarageBoy said:
BTW: Tactical Knives says the William Henry works fine as a survival knife

I've HUGE doubts about this. That's why I'm selling my brand new WH B-12FT on Ebay.
 
DaveH said:
That last one is just advertising, not a review.

You got me. I'm on their monthly payment list :)
Just kidding.
Facing the "Advertising" whose link I posted, I do agree with their words.
I've an Alias II and my favourite knife shop is a friend of mine who gave me a Small Sebbie to test. I mean real field test with factory new knives. Three days of trekking, climbing, cutting ropes and wood (including some side loading) and really heavy duty and the hollow grind of Sebbie had shown its limits especially in side loading/twisting operations (some slight bending and chippin').At the end of it all I did show both knives to my friend who acknowledged what whas obvious. He comes from a 30 year long knife selling experience.
This is how I do use my knives and Sebbie costs lotta more and gives me less.

Sebbie's ergonomics and design are inferior to Alias II. My father, my sister, her husband (owner of an aluminium factory), 3 professional Designers, two hunting stores, five customers of mine. All agree after taking a look, handling them and cutting with them (ergonomically speakin').
 
If you've already decided that the Alias was best why did you even bother asking?

My impression of the alias, without doing any detsructive testing, was that it was way less sturdy then a sebenza. Have you tryed prying with an Alias?
 
DaveH said:
If you've already decided that the Alias was best why did you even bother asking?

My impression of the alias, without doing any detsructive testing, was that it was way less sturdy then a sebenza. Have you tryed prying with an Alias?

Sorry. I feel the need to give some more info. Let me point out that I was asking on March the 20th. I spent some days doing research in Bladeforums, I made a test order of Bradley AliasII, a first run #127.

Then I went into the field, mountains (Italian alps), and a deep trekking climbing session. On my side: Small Sebbie and Alias II.

I just reported my test and what really happened.
Before testing, I said the above mentioned people I know to give a rough try to both and to report me about ergonomics and design.

What I posted above is just and only what they told me and -later on- happened in the field. Shame on me for that? :)

Could you please be more descriptive with the term "Prying" ?Just asking.

Then: you live presumably not in Italy, where a Small Sebbie is sold at 610EUR :thumbdn: and CRK DOES NOT exercise any control over price listings.
When I was nearly buying a Sebbie (two months ago) I stepped into Kevin Wilkins site and ordered an F4 with S90 blade (for my 40th birthday) instead. Spending many EUR less than for a small Sebbie. I guess shame on me again? :D
 
daberti said:
I've an Alias II and my favourite knife shop is a friend of mine who gave me a Small Sebbie to test. I mean real field test with factory new knives. Three days of trekking, climbing, cutting ropes and wood (including some side loading) and really heavy duty and the hollow grind of Sebbie had shown its limits especially in side loading/twisting operations (some slight bending and chippin').At the end of it all I did show both knives to my friend who acknowledged what whas obvious. He comes from a 30 year long knife selling experience.
This is how I do use my knives and Sebbie costs lotta more and gives me less.

If that's the case, then why didin't you post a review instead of being cheeky and asking the question?

daberti said:
Sebbie's ergonomics and design are inferior to Alias II. My father, my sister, her husband (owner of an aluminium factory), 3 professional Designers, two hunting stores, five customers of mine. All agree after taking a look, handling them and cutting with them (ergonomically speakin').

Well, if an aluminum factory owner says it, then it must be true.

Do you have any pictures or detailed testing to support these claims, or is it just your opinion that the ergonomics and design aren't as good? BTW, I own neither knife, nor do I have plans to buy one or the other, so I really don't have any vested interest in the outcome of such a comparison.
 
Hey Dave (or anyone for that matter), did anyone find out if the lockface of the Bradley is heat treated? I knoe the question was brought up, but I don't think it got answered. :)
 
HornsKeith said:
If that's the case, then why didin't you post a review instead of being cheeky and asking the question?



Well, if an aluminum factory owner says it, then it must be true.

Do you have any pictures or detailed testing to support these claims, or is it just your opinion that the ergonomics and design aren't as good? BTW, I own neither knife, nor do I have plans to buy one or the other, so I really don't have any vested interest in the outcome of such a comparison.

I asked the question long before deciding to buy it, meanwhile the thread went on. Just said above.

Pictures of the test in the field: nope. I'm a lightweight backpacker and you may guess weight is anything when walking for 15miles a day and climbing from time to time. The only camera I do own is a Contax, in the $$$$ price range, weights and costs....

Ergonomics/design: it is not an opinion of mine. I've already mentioned the people and I would make their names if only they would not have asked me to do not so.

More in general: no mean to raise a war between Brads and Sebbies neither to say Sebbies are bad.
I just said that for my use one did better, but even my BM Skirmish did better than Large Sebbie.

Last thing: Sebbies are sold at absurd prices in Italy, at which prices I can easily get customs.
 
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