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vector001

vector001

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quick question;

i have a couple new hawks;

the Rawk Hawk, which has a river stone photographic image as a finish (third hawk from Left),

...and the Sequoia Hawk (second hawk from the Right);

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i am starting to get the hang of how to build the new Gen 1 Mk 4 handle, so they are getting kind of ...i don't know - intimidating, i suppose - these are so nice, i am kind of stumped;

i really should put some paracord overstrike protection on them, and i don't know whether i should go fancy or basic, to get them sold - the Rawk Hawk has some lovely greys and reddish browns sprinkled in there - i think a Coyote Brown wrap, like the hawk to its extreme left (on top of the Commanche Christian machete sheath) might be nice, ...but maybe Foliage Grey paracord wraps would be better - i like the really subdued look, but most folks do not.

same with the Gen 1 Mk 4 in Faux Cherrywood Heirloom finish - the Sequoia Hawk - it is so clean - maybe i should go with some black paracord, or should i get wild with something like red and black wraps, or...________?

..........

i have been knocking out so many hawks lately, and dealing with other things, i think i fried something in my head, what was left anyways - i busted my decider, i tell ya;

so i am gonna cheat and ask you guys - go completely Martha Stewart on me, brethren - what should i do to wrap these with?

what would be foxy?

TIA.

tired brain dead vec
 
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The Rawk Hawk would go great with Foliage paracord. Otherwise, I have a soft spot for royal blue paracord.

The Sequoia hawk would look best with rawhide, coyote brown paracord probably being the closest.

PS -- how long are the handles on those two?
 
Cpl Punishment said:
The Rawk Hawk would go great with Foliage paracord. Otherwise, I have a soft spot for royal blue paracord.

The Sequoia hawk would look best with rawhide, coyote brown paracord probably being the closest.

PS -- how long are the handles on those two?
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i think foliage is the favorite so far, i am still in the dark about the Faux Cherry Heirloom hawk.

- how long are the handles? i am away from home so i don't have them in front of me - i think they are around 25 inches, if i remember right....

thanks for your help, brother.

vec
 
I think Martha would agree on going basic on them :) or maybe give your customer the option of colour etc..
 
Vec. Everyone and his brother are 'in the tank' for paracord. I never, ever liked the stuff that much except for what it was intended. But the market says 'paracord'. For me....try some good leather with under & over looping every 3rd loop. Now that would be interesting.

All My Best
Dwight
 
Dwight, that sounds interesting- can you post a pic or link showing an example?
 
Dwight McLemore said:
Vec. Everyone and his brother are 'in the tank' for paracord. I never, ever liked the stuff that much except for what it was intended. But the market says 'paracord'. For me....try some good leather with under & over looping every 3rd loop. Now that would be interesting.

All My Best
Dwight
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good suggestion, brother, thank you.

vec
 
most of the suggestions on the Rawk Hawk were towards putting some nice Foliage Grey Paracord on her;

i think she is gorgeous. - super well-balanced amongst many other good ones too.
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we'll pop some of our airtight plugs in the ends and ship her off to her new owner.
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you can take the plugs out and put in other accessories - camera mounts are one of my favorite goodies to put on. - with this new design, you can do that by just rotating the screw in the airtight plugs - it is 10 -24, like a standard tri-pod.

the head is coated with a clear epoxy vapor coat to fight oxidation, and more importantly, to look sexy-licious.
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a look down the barrel ...uh - TUBE, i mean...:o....
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i think i am going to put more fishing tackle in mine, alongside the firestarting material.

enjoy, brother!

vec
 
Good choice on the Rawk looks good.
The other one would look good in a dark brown !
They look like Great Hawks....
 
Dusty One said:
Good choice on the Rawk looks good.
The other one would look good in a dark brown !
They look like Great Hawks....
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they are a lot of fun, if ya ask me, good-brother dust'.

an Investor just accepted this Cherry Heirloom one, with some Coyote wrap around it - one of my favorites, ...so i will have to try the avant garde stuff on the next one - i have a big ol' ass-kicking Norse Hawk in Olive Green shades that i can't decide on how to beautify - a good hawk seems a lot like a good woman - long and slender and naked is always sexy, but ya put some jewelry on her, and the visceral reaction to something good gets even more profound at times - maybe that's TMI! har!

i've been experimenting with epoxy paint techniques lately and i am trying to work up the guts to some Viking Runes on it, or maybe flowers and give it to my Mother-in-Law ...:cool:....

vec
 
I'm gonna say, I have never been a fan of fake anything, its eigther wood, or it isn't, its synthetic or it isn't, trying to make it look like its something its not has always been tacky. So synthetics are reserved for all the funky patterns you can come up with, but not wood grain.

No offence I like your work.
 
ron_m80 said:
I'm gonna say, I have never been a fan of fake anything, its eigther wood, or it isn't, its synthetic or it isn't, trying to make it look like its something its not has always been tacky. So synthetics are reserved for all the funky patterns you can come up with, but not wood grain.
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tacky, eh? :o

i guess that is assuming i am not trying to make a composite handle that just happens to look like Cherry...:D....

i would normally agree with you, brother - fake wood, veneer, all that stuff never works out for me usually - i chose this material because it has physical properties that are really excellent - i really like its texture after i treat it, for one thing - the wood design is just an added bonus, and it happens to be beautiful (uh, to most of us).

the wood patterns are really disarming in person too - for example; i can pull out two hawks that are balanced the same, weigh equal mass, and are exact same length - one in these Heirloom Styles, and one in some wonder-flage or indian pattern, or whatever non-wood pattern - folks will recoil at the latter, while they completely accept the Heirloom Cherry. :cool:

that's sheeple for ya, i reckon.

No offence I like your work.
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no offense taken at all, i like to hear what folks think.

i appreciate your thoughts, keep 'em coming.


we make hawks for folks to love. if they don't love their hawk, its back to the drawing board.

we can't do that as well without your insights. thanks.

vec
 
Cpl Punishment said:
Out of curiosity, what kind of paint will stick to the snakeskin covering you're using now?
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i don't know, brother.

you might not realize - these images in the hawks are not some cheesy paint on the surface, they are embedded in the material - when your hawk gets scratched up, you can usually make the image snap right back to new with a little water and rubbing. - you are simply removing the dust from the scratch, which is the opaque mark you would see.

i like it. - hope you do too.

if i put paint on them, it is earlier in the process of the build when they still accept paint readily, then the paint is embedded into the finish. - it's not a simple process, and we do this because i don't want to give a brother a hawk that doesn't stay aesthetically pleasing for as long as possible (we can refinish them anyways, but we don't want ya to be let down in the first place).

the Snake Skins are thicker than mere paint, too - so if you really scratch it, it won't show up like a chip out of paint might.

all the images in Snake Skin are embedded - you would have to have tons of heavy paint on the hawk to get a similar effect IMHO.

Snake Skin is rough too, so if you are going to mask it, for painted stripes or something, that needs to go into your painting plan - you'd want to mask with a liquid mask to contour with the finish texture, vice tape, which will bridge across all the micro-pebbles in the surface, causing your paint lines to be fuzzy, at best - and you'd have to be careful, because Snake Skin acts like the real thing - a snake's skin, and will release anything that tries to stick to it for the most part, like your new beautiful paint job! - that's the beauty of one of Snake Skin's best characteristics (to me anyways) - it doesn't soak moisture, nor is it slippery when wet.

it's funky-licious.

:cool:

so far, maybe i have answered part of the next question - how to design/personalize one of our Snake Skinned Gen 1 Mk 4 Hawks - the rest of the question: what paint - that's a compound question too - if i was going to re-paint a hawk for an Investor, i would

1) mask it with some of my compounds, that are made to delaminate cleanly with a little force -

2) then probably get a micro-abrasive blaster and etch the surface with Baking Soda -

3) then spray some test paint on it (in my case, probably auto-type professional paints)

4) torture test the paint test area of the hawk, and if she passes

5) re-etch the test area, check and re-check the masking like a Type-A Maniac, and paint her up.

6) epoxy vapor coat the new paint carefully after removing the post-paint masks.



that all might be unnecessary, but i would bet it would be a helluva lot better than doing it otherwise.

do it right the first time, and only do it only once, right?

we don't always live up to that, but we always try to.

................

if you try to paint one of our hawks, don't expect the paint to stay on for long, without some intensive labor prepping, such as i have described.

you are going to need to abraid the surface, as finely as possible, to open up the surface, and paint it with something that can really stick to plastics and composites - MAYBE. - like i tried to express, that's not my first choice, to understate.

if you go that way, there be dragons, as far as i can tell.

good luck.

vec
 
ron_m80 said:
I'm gonna say, I have never been a fan of fake anything, its eigther wood, or it isn't, its synthetic or it isn't, trying to make it look like its something its not has always been tacky. So synthetics are reserved for all the funky patterns you can come up with, but not wood grain.

No offence I like your work.
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I like the woodgrain but not sure about the camo ones. I keep thinking I would throw a cam one, miss the target and spend half an hour searching for it :)
 
Moff8 said:
I like the woodgrain but not sure about the camo ones. I keep thinking I would throw a cam one, miss the target and spend half an hour searching for it :)
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hehehe!

that's why God made Brilliant Orange Paracord.

"Missing the Target"...? what is this "Missing" people keep talking about...? :D

vec
 
Faux Cherry Heirloom Hawk, decked out to ship, per customer spec.

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thanks for your help, brethren, this was very fun - it took a lot of pressure off of me - one last needle on the camel's back, as it were.

hope no one minds if i do this again.

vec
 
Moff8 said:
I like the woodgrain but not sure about the camo ones. I keep thinking I would throw a cam one, miss the target and spend half an hour searching for it :)
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That's the problem with camo...it does it's job! :D
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
That's the problem with camo...it does it's job! :D
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i was thinking of working sort of a whistle into the hawk, so you could echo-locate where it went off to when ya tossed it at a zombie.

it'd scare the crap out of an enemy when you were swinging the hawk by its lanyard and charging, i reckon.


'must be my drop of Sioux Blood influencing me.

i think that'd be something.

vec
 
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