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What is the weakest point on most double edge blades? The fragile tip. I am a big fan fan of spear point and dagger blades like the ones on the Mel Pardue auto and axis by Benchmade, and most Microtech OTFs. But the frigile tip on these blades limits thier useability. I have discovered the Besh Wedge! It is a revolutionary design that eliminates this problem. I love it! The only problem is I wouldn't have any use for this blade in a fixed blade such as it is offered. I would love it in an OTF and buy it withoit hesitation. How would I go about getting the Besh Wedge developer and and an OTF company to come together and do a collab. using the tried and true design and mecanism of the OTF company? Anyone ever been involed in a collab between a manufacturer and a custom knife maker? Suggestions and input are welcome. If you don't have any idea how to get a collab started, What do you think about my particular idea?
 
I had heard of BESH wedge, but wasn't sure of the design so I googled it.

It looks more or less like two chisel ground tips on opposite sides in opposite directions if that makes sense. Very interesting design.

As far as OTF developers, good luck on that one. I doubt that any of the makers have time for that, but try getting in touch with them. Microtech, Benchmade, Dalton (maybe Dalton can do something, but he supports white supremacy supposedly, so if that doesn't bother you, see about contacting him) would be the big three. There are two more that I can't think of OTOH.

I am speculating that most of the big manufacturers are busy with their own product line up.
 
Do you have a picture? I doubt most people have a clue what a besh wedge is. From what I can find it is just a chisel ground blade. Is it anything other than that?

As far as a collaboration I think the company would have to think it would sell well. If what you want is a double edged chisel ground blade in an OTF auto then you might be the only person who wants one. You would probably need a blade design and then go to the various manufacturer you are thinking of. That or find someone that makes custom knives and have them make you a one of a kind.
 
I'd say you're just about SOL as far as getting a production company to collaborate with a custom blade maker, unless maybe your the president of the United States or possibly Lil Wayne. If you're still all gung ho balls to the wall about it you might try emailing the company and starting a thread about it on both makers forums if they have one. Make a list of forums members that would buy one if they were made. You're chances of it ending successfully are probably about 5% but I have seen it work before on the Benchmade forums. Granted not getting a collaboration started but getting a production knife with the materials they asked for.

You're best chance of actually getting a besh wedge OTF is finding a custom maker to make one for you but it will not be cheap. I don't know a thing about custom OTFs but you might ask over in the automatic knife or practical tactical sub forums for advice on custom auto makers. Good luck.
 
One of these perhaps? Buck Bravo.

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Looking at it again I'm not sure I see the point (edit: no pun intended :D). The tip is made to be strong and sacrifices cutting ability for the excessive strength. OTF automatics are going to wear out or break very quickly if you beat on the blade like it was designed to do. OTF and stabbing don't go together very well because of the stresses put on the internals if you hit something hard that doesn't give.

If you are dead set on it your best bet is probably to buy your favorite OTF knife and send it to a custom maker to have disassembled and a new blade made that will use the original mechanism. It shouldn't be all that hard for a skilled maker to reproduce the profile needed to work in the knife. I personally don't think it is all that great of an idea. Now it might be good in a balisong.
 
I am pretty sure I'm SOL on a full out Collab with a company and the Besh guy going into production. But I wouldn't mind getting a producthion OTF and retrofitting it with a Besh blade. That's a really good idea I haven't thought of. It would deffinetely have to be a single action OTF with the automatic opening ant the pill close reset. The DA thit everyone finds "soooo cool" would not hold up well enough to be very practical as FlaMtnBkr stated. There are some very strong single action mechanisms out there suct as the sandshark and halo designs. I have seen these pierce 55 gallon metal drums repeatedly with no problems.

The point of my idea is to have a knife that is a dedicated stabber to use as a fighting/defense blade. The fixed blade version would serve that purpose very well. The problem with that is it's size. I don't want to carry a clumbsy fixed blade knife that only serves one purpose. If it was in a single action OTF configuration That would solve the size issue and it would be able to deploy very fast.

The ballisong idea is good. i would prefer an auto since i'm not proficient with ballis. But if the OTF doesn't work This might be an option.
 
I don't want to be "that guy" who burts your bubble, but the design is confusing to me. There's no tip. It's like a diver's knife. Snap the tip off of a D/E MT and sharpen the end. Viola!

By the way there are pics or maybe even a video floating around of T. Marfione doing one of the 55 gal. drum tests with a Scarab. No problems. Fired and retracted fine after stabbing it a bunch of time into the drum. Also, the DKW Sandshark is a D/A OTF not a S/A OTF.

Besides the Besh Wedge was made specifically for double edged fighting daggers. You don't need a fine tip when you are stabbing a person at full force.
 
There are already a bunch of designs out there that use the Besh Wedge. Boker makes a version of their Applegate dagger using it, as well as Blackhawk. Of course none of them are OTF autos.
 
Yeah, i know the besh wedge is wierd and most people don't like it but I do. I like different! I've Googleed everything I can on it and haven't seen anything I like enough to buy. I like the blade style. I just don't line it in any current configurations. I have decided to try and work something out with some kind of single action otf. I an going to post a new thread on the auto knife forum and try to get some input on a good otf that would be easy to to change the blade out in. Thanks for the input guys.
 
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