Brian Andrews/Joezilla Terrasaur!!!

Great stuff buddy !
As soon as I saw the BHK Boat Tail I thought ' man that looks a cool handy blade ' unfortunately I didn't have the funds to get one. However that Terrasaur looks like my idea of a perfect Scandi, I don't think there is a thing I'd change on it.

Keep us updated on how ya find it performs during future tasks !
 
Those boys over at BHK are making some cool stuff! I like that boat tail :thumbup:

I am not at sure about those other two characters you are talking about :p

B
 
I wish I'd stop seeing pics of this knife already.... Damn - I want one bad. I'm thinking of picking up one of Fiddleback's. That is a great looking knife and I love the design of the extended tang.

Thanks for the review and thanks for not trying to split that log :)
 
A shot of mine I received today to further entice those thinking about one!

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I wish I'd stop seeing pics of this knife already.... Damn - I want one bad. I'm thinking of picking up one of Fiddleback's. That is a great looking knife and I love the design of the extended tang.

Thanks for the review and thanks for not trying to split that log :)

haha:D

Dude, Fiddleback makes a damn nice one as well. Mikes is SWEET! This is really one of the best designs Ive used. My carving is improving alot....:thumbup:

A shot of mine I received today to further entice those thinking about one!

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I love Red micarta. Looks awesome. :thumbup:
 
All of this Terrasaur talk has me getting mine out and giving it some lovin' :D I have the waterstones out and am working at getting it through to the 8000 grit shine :D

Seriously, this is the first "nice" treatment I have given that knife. I have treated mine like a redheaded stepchild :D Always using it for the nasty stuff, saving it for the worst conditions, etc. Because it is so well worn, and has been with me everywhere, makes me like it that much more.

I am really glad that you all are enjoying yours.

B
 
I can tell ya that it wouldnt be redundant to own them both. They are similar, but each has its own feel to it. It would be cool to get some side by side impressions of them...

I'm fortunate enough to have a Terrasaur from Brian and from Andy. One of them totally sucks the other is excellent. Unfortunately I can't figure out which is which, but I'll try to compare them for you.

While I don't think there is any one "ideal" bushcrafting knife, Joezilla's Terrasaur comes as darn close as any. I've always liked a bit of a drop point and Joe's modification of the Bush Tool seemed like a natural idea to me.

I don't have a lot of field time with either of these knives, but I have used them both a bit--the Fiddleback more than the Off The Map. By the way, Andy's Fiddleback is the one with green micarta, Brian's OTM is the one with natural micarta.

Let me start with the sheaths; sheaths are important:

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The Fiddleback came in a good quality JRE sheath with a firesteel loop. I'm not a big firesteel loop guy, but sometimes that's a nice feature. I think I top coated the sheath with some Montana pine-pitch blend. Brian made his sheath from nice 7-8oz (?), wax-impregnated leather. Both sheaths fit well, Brian's is a bit snugger. I'd like both sheaths to be another 1/2" higher, but I'm paranoid about losing my knives, so you may not care.
In comparison, I like Brian's sheath better; it's a top quality sheath. I've never been a big fan of JRE sheaths. When I get my next Fiddleback Terrsaur, I'll ask Andy to send it to Tal or Noah for pants. Nevertheless, the JRE sheath is a good quality sheath. Edge goes to Brian here.

Blades:

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In terms of their physical dimensions, you can see that they are very close.

Brian's blade is slightly, very slightly, shorter. His spine is straight until the mid point and then begins to drop. Andy begins his drop more gradually and about a third of the way from the ricasso. Andy also drops his point a bit more. Both knives are wicked sharp and the grind angles seem pretty darn close. I didn't have a way to accurately measure the grind angles, Brian's might be slightly more obtuse, i.e. larger. Brian's does become a little more obtuse at the tip, but the picture above is misleading--just a trick of the light. Both grinds are near perfect.

Andy's blade is slightly narrower than Brian's. Since the blade shapes are so close in profiles, I don't think there is a real difference. It may come down to subtleties of preference with regard to the depth of the point drop and blade width. And we are talking subtleties. Edge, and it is a really slight edge, goes to Andy's blade shape. (And this is completely personal preference!)

Handles:

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Here is where the knives separate out more.

Brian's handle is thinner and a wee bit narrower, conversely Andy's is a bit thicker and a bit broader (at least at the midpoint). Brian's handle is actually a bit longer, but with the exposed pommel (my request) it feels slightly shorter. Brian left his micarta a bit rougher which makes sense for wilderness use. Andy's is more highly finished and feels like it could be slick. But it is contoured micarta and I have no worries about dropping it.

One important difference is the way the handles are finished at the ricasso: Andy has a slight chamfer on his handle and Brian left his square. Here I have a real preference. The chamfer is more comfortable when using a chest-lever grip. The squared-off handle looks sharp, but it also feels sharp. This is a somewhat subtle difference, but I've been thinking about taking the Dremmel to Brian's handle. :eek: Even Andy's handles could use a bit more chamferring.

Brian's handle fills my hand a bit better, but even so, edge goes to Fiddleback for chamferring the blade end of the handle.

Overall impressions:

Both of these are excellent knives and you couldn't go wrong with either. I haven't been much of a scandi fan, but these knives have converted me. Brian's Terrasaur has a shorter and stouter feel. It's a bit wider, the handle feels a bit shorter, and somehow that adds up to a 'stocky' feel. The rough micarta also gives it a rugged feel. Andy's Terrasaur has a slimmer and more elegant (can I use that word in W&SS?) to it. I think the combination of a deeper, longer drop point and a slimmer, smoother handle combine for this effect.

You couldn't go wrong with either I think, and you definitely need at least one. I suspect that Brian's is a little more true to Joe's design specs and that Andy's is slightly 'interpreted'; but both are genuine, wood-chomping Terrasaurs.
 
I'm fortunate enough to have a Terrasaur from Brian and from Andy. One of them totally sucks the other is excellent. Unfortunately I can't figure out which is which, but I'll try to compare them for you.

While I don't think there is any one "ideal" bushcrafting knife, Joezilla's Terrasaur comes as darn close as any. I've always liked a bit of a drop point and Joe's modification of the Bush Tool seemed like a natural idea to me.

I don't have a lot of field time with either of these knives, but I have used them both a bit--the Fiddleback more than the Off The Map. By the way, Andy's Fiddleback is the one with green micarta, Brian's OTM is the one with natural micarta.

Let me start with the sheaths; sheaths are important:

847120920_NYpoQ-L.jpg


The Fiddleback came in a good quality JRE sheath with a firesteel loop. I'm not a big firesteel loop guy, but sometimes that's a nice feature. I think I top coated the sheath with some Montana pine-pitch blend. Brian made his sheath from nice 7-8oz (?), wax-impregnated leather. Both sheaths fit well, Brian's is a bit snugger. I'd like both sheaths to be another 1/2" higher, but I'm paranoid about losing my knives, so you may not care.
In comparison, I like Brian's sheath better; it's a top quality sheath. I've never been a big fan of JRE sheaths. When I get my next Fiddleback Terrsaur, I'll ask Andy to send it to Tal or Noah for pants. Nevertheless, the JRE sheath is a good quality sheath. Edge goes to Brian here.

Blades:

847121547_c5GzY-L.jpg


In terms of their physical dimensions, you can see that they are very close.

Brian's blade is slightly, very slightly, shorter. His spine is straight until the mid point and then begins to drop. Andy begins his drop more gradually and about a third of the way from the ricasso. Andy also drops his point a bit more. Both knives are wicked sharp and the grind angles seem pretty darn close. I didn't have a way to accurately measure the grind angles, Brian's might be slightly more obtuse, i.e. larger. Brian's does become a little more obtuse at the tip, but the picture above is misleading--just a trick of the light. Both grinds are near perfect.

Andy's blade is slightly narrower than Brian's. Since the blade shapes are so close in profiles, I don't think there is a real difference. It may come down to subtleties of preference with regard to the depth of the point drop and blade width. And we are talking subtleties. Edge, and it is a really slight edge, goes to Andy's blade shape. (And this is completely personal preference!)

Handles:

847122964_5bLim-L.jpg


Here is where the knives separate out more.

Brian's handle is thinner and a wee bit narrower, conversely Andy's is a bit thicker and a bit broader (at least at the midpoint). Brian's handle is actually a bit longer, but with the exposed pommel (my request) it feels slightly shorter. Brian left his micarta a bit rougher which makes sense for wilderness use. Andy's is more highly finished and feels like it could be slick. But it is contoured micarta and I have no worries about dropping it.

One important difference is the way the handles are finished at the ricasso: Andy has a slight chamfer on his handle and Brian left his square. Here I have a real preference. The chamfer is more comfortable when using a chest-lever grip. The squared-off handle looks sharp, but it also feels sharp. This is a somewhat subtle difference, but I've been thinking about taking the Dremmel to Brian's handle. :eek: Even Andy's handles could use a bit more chamferring.

Brian's handle fills my hand a bit better, but even so, edge goes to Fiddleback for chamferring the blade end of the handle.

Overall impressions:

Both of these are excellent knives and you couldn't go wrong with either. I haven't been much of a scandi fan, but these knives have converted me. Brian's Terrasaur has a shorter and stouter feel. It's a bit wider, the handle feels a bit shorter, and somehow that adds up to a 'stocky' feel. The rough micarta also gives it a rugged feel. Andy's Terrasaur has a slimmer and more elegant (can I use that word in W&SS?) to it. I think the combination of a deeper, longer drop point and a slimmer, smoother handle combine for this effect.

You couldn't go wrong with either I think, and you definitely need at least one. I suspect that Brian's is a little more true to Joe's design specs and that Andy's is slightly 'interpreted'; but both are genuine, wood-chomping Terrasaurs.


very nice Rotte.... both of those looks great... :thumbup: i have one of Andy's Terrasaur's and would love to own one of Brian's too.. i was on his list, but was forced to cancel, due to some other $$$ engagement's...:( i think i may have to get back on his list soon... i really like his knives a lot...
 
i think i may have to get back on his list soon... i really like his knives a lot...

I like the way you think :D.

Mistake: I see that I mistyped when talking about the handle dimensions above, or at least I wasn't very clear. Brian's handle is a wee bit narrower (side-to-side) but deeper (spine-to-edge). Andy's was thicker (side-to-side), but not quite as broad (spine-to-edge). I don't know of a conventional nomenclature to describe these handle dimensions and hashed it up in my description above. Maybe I should just let the pics speak for themselves:

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here's mine...(sheath made by me) the scales are fairly thin compared to those 2...i love it none the less..

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Beauty Mike!

I'm reminded also that since each of these is hand made, no two will be alike. In some ways it makes no sense to compare the two above, since both of mine are different from yours--at least a little, yeah?

Moreover, I'd wouldn't value my comparison above as meaning much; it was fun to compare the two maker's interpretation of Joe's design, that's about it. Hopefully I've brought up a couple ideas for those who are considering adopting a Terrasaur from one or the other makers. I'm willing to bet that Andy or Brian would tweak your Terrasaur to your specs, which is important, 'cuz you ain't gettin' mine! :D
 
Man, Brian, the pics of the knife in the OP. Sweet stuff brother. Brian talked me through the jig I use to make mine. I think our angles are just about the same. 12.5 per side. I like to vary my handle thicknesses a lot. Mikes was a lot thinner than Rotte's.

Nice lookin work my friend.
 
All of this Terrasaur talk has me getting mine out and giving it some lovin' :D I have the waterstones out and am working at getting it through to the 8000 grit shine :D

Seriously, this is the first "nice" treatment I have given that knife. I have treated mine like a redheaded stepchild :D Always using it for the nasty stuff, saving it for the worst conditions, etc. Because it is so well worn, and has been with me everywhere, makes me like it that much more.

I am really glad that you all are enjoying yours.

B

Thats cool Brian....Its good to know that it stands up well to constant field use. :thumbup: What brand of stones do you use?
 
I'm fortunate enough to have a Terrasaur from Brian and from Andy. One of them totally sucks the other is excellent. Unfortunately I can't figure out which is which, but I'll try to compare them for you.

While I don't think there is any one "ideal" bushcrafting knife, Joezilla's Terrasaur comes as darn close as any. I've always liked a bit of a drop point and Joe's modification of the Bush Tool seemed like a natural idea to me.

I don't have a lot of field time with either of these knives, but I have used them both a bit--the Fiddleback more than the Off The Map. By the way, Andy's Fiddleback is the one with green micarta, Brian's OTM is the one with natural micarta.

Let me start with the sheaths; sheaths are important:


The Fiddleback came in a good quality JRE sheath with a firesteel loop. I'm not a big firesteel loop guy, but sometimes that's a nice feature. I think I top coated the sheath with some Montana pine-pitch blend. Brian made his sheath from nice 7-8oz (?), wax-impregnated leather. Both sheaths fit well, Brian's is a bit snugger. I'd like both sheaths to be another 1/2" higher, but I'm paranoid about losing my knives, so you may not care.
In comparison, I like Brian's sheath better; it's a top quality sheath. I've never been a big fan of JRE sheaths. When I get my next Fiddleback Terrsaur, I'll ask Andy to send it to Tal or Noah for pants. Nevertheless, the JRE sheath is a good quality sheath. Edge goes to Brian here.

Blades:



In terms of their physical dimensions, you can see that they are very close.

Brian's blade is slightly, very slightly, shorter. His spine is straight until the mid point and then begins to drop. Andy begins his drop more gradually and about a third of the way from the ricasso. Andy also drops his point a bit more. Both knives are wicked sharp and the grind angles seem pretty darn close. I didn't have a way to accurately measure the grind angles, Brian's might be slightly more obtuse, i.e. larger. Brian's does become a little more obtuse at the tip, but the picture above is misleading--just a trick of the light. Both grinds are near perfect.

Andy's blade is slightly narrower than Brian's. Since the blade shapes are so close in profiles, I don't think there is a real difference. It may come down to subtleties of preference with regard to the depth of the point drop and blade width. And we are talking subtleties. Edge, and it is a really slight edge, goes to Andy's blade shape. (And this is completely personal preference!)

Handles:



Here is where the knives separate out more.

Brian's handle is thinner and a wee bit narrower, conversely Andy's is a bit thicker and a bit broader (at least at the midpoint). Brian's handle is actually a bit longer, but with the exposed pommel (my request) it feels slightly shorter. Brian left his micarta a bit rougher which makes sense for wilderness use. Andy's is more highly finished and feels like it could be slick. But it is contoured micarta and I have no worries about dropping it.

One important difference is the way the handles are finished at the ricasso: Andy has a slight chamfer on his handle and Brian left his square. Here I have a real preference. The chamfer is more comfortable when using a chest-lever grip. The squared-off handle looks sharp, but it also feels sharp. This is a somewhat subtle difference, but I've been thinking about taking the Dremmel to Brian's handle. :eek: Even Andy's handles could use a bit more chamferring.

Brian's handle fills my hand a bit better, but even so, edge goes to Fiddleback for chamferring the blade end of the handle.

Overall impressions:

Both of these are excellent knives and you couldn't go wrong with either. I haven't been much of a scandi fan, but these knives have converted me. Brian's Terrasaur has a shorter and stouter feel. It's a bit wider, the handle feels a bit shorter, and somehow that adds up to a 'stocky' feel. The rough micarta also gives it a rugged feel. Andy's Terrasaur has a slimmer and more elegant (can I use that word in W&SS?) to it. I think the combination of a deeper, longer drop point and a slimmer, smoother handle combine for this effect.

You couldn't go wrong with either I think, and you definitely need at least one. I suspect that Brian's is a little more true to Joe's design specs and that Andy's is slightly 'interpreted'; but both are genuine, wood-chomping Terrasaurs.

Thanks for that Rotte....Its neat to see the 2 compared. :thumbup:

Love the scales on your FB.
 
Man these pics are getting to me!

Can you hold out any longer T? :D

Man, Brian, the pics of the knife in the OP. Sweet stuff brother. Brian talked me through the jig I use to make mine. I think our angles are just about the same. 12.5 per side. I like to vary my handle thicknesses a lot. Mikes was a lot thinner than Rotte's.

Nice lookin work my friend.

Thanks Andy.... glad you liked my pics, your Scandis are looking great man. I can always tell a FB blade. :cool:

This thread has some very nice steel in it.
 
No my will is weak! ;)

Time to get on a list Tknife!

Both Terrasaurs look great. I went with Brian's for one reason....
I have a Fiddleback Hunter and didn't have one of Brian's blades.
There are a couple things I did on my order that I am very happy with.
I requested that Brian leave the handle as thick as possible and taper the handle at the blade end. As Rotte said, the handle taper makes it more comfortable on the chest lever grip.
I'm very happy with this knife.

It works well as a steak knife too. :thumbup:

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