British knife ban

When more people turn out to vote for American Idol than for the president, let's not get our hopes up.
 
spiraltwista said:
Yep our laws are a mess. And the people who make them live in mansions surronded by armed bodygaurds.

I just hope no one gets killed with a kukri. Or they will probably ban them.

Thanks Andy! LOL Actualy I would certanly destroy them rather than surrender them. I might give them to a museam if I new they would display them.

Or weld them into a giant sculpture perhaps?

Who knows? I hope it doesnt happen.

I would cry.

Spiral
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Dude, Live like a king on the throne, immigrate illegally to the US. You'd get everything for free, and we'd have to pay for you living high on the hog. Its super popular right now, everybody's doing it. Free ride. As many weapons as you like, for now, too. Woo hoo. You probably have as much right to my house as I do too. Just move in and throw me out.

Rant off

Seriously, we aren't much better off bro. Board your house up and fight to the death for your khuks. Thats my plan when they come for my guns.

Sigh
 
Tom, In London the average response to 999 is 17 minutes. {so they say.} In that time your asailent can ring the police , tell them whats hes going to do ,rob you & cripple you & slowly walk away through the millions of pedestrians.

He would be over a mile away by the time the police arrive to clear you up.

That said because of past expierences I never carry a knife on my person in urban areas anymore.

But I understand why some do.

The people living in the wrong place dont normaly have much option.


Approy sounds like its the same in many places nowadays. They took my guns 20 years ago. It wasnt a good expierience.

Spiral
 
DGG said:
Yup, they are big on "Banning" stuff in the UK and the crown colonies. A recent poll showed most of the Brits don't feel well protected over there. I guess you can always put some rocks in an old sock and whack the bad guy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

Oh, Happy Birthday to QueenE. I hope the Royal Guards took her and her hubby out to the local pub for fish and chips and a pint to celebrate the grand occasion!
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The mechanism behind this kind of political behavior usually has nothing to do with the thing being regulated. Politicians get into a standard MO where they are expected to show some tangeable evidence of having accomplished something, and the objective becomes simply one of creating the paper trail. The legislation does not need to be rational, nor need it actually address the issue; the only thing that matters is that the sponsor's name be clearly visible on the bill, and that it provide something that can be added onto that legislator's resume.

The only way to beat this is by encouraging open debate. the public perception has to shift onto somthing else; it needs to be made clear that any further movement along the current path will prove wasteful, intrusive, and ineffective.

n2s
 
spiraltwista said:
Yep our laws are a mess. And the people who make them live in mansions surronded by armed bodygaurds.

I just hope no one gets killed with a kukri. Or they will probably ban them.

Thanks Andy! LOL Actualy I would certanly destroy them rather than surrender them. I might give them to a museam if I new they would display them.

Or weld them into a giant sculpture perhaps?

Who knows? I hope it doesnt happen.

I would cry.

Spiral
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I would suggest that if all else fails:
1) Send the collection to the US
2) You can then either reimport it when the laws change, move here, or put the collection up for sale at a more reasonable pace.

n2s
 
These "gun-control" laws (I write with deliberate irony) have been with us for a long, long time. How long? Consider this:

"Now no blacksmith could be found in all the land of Israel, for the Philistines said, 'Otherwise the Hebrews will make swords or spears.' So all Israel went down to the Philistines, each to sharpen his plowshare, his mattock, his axe, and his hoe. The charge was two-thirds of a shekel for the plowshares, the mattocks, the forks, and the axes, and to fix the hoes. So it came about on the day of battle that neither sword nor spear was found in the hands of any of the people who were with Saul and Jonathan, but they were found with Saul and his son Jonathan."

--I Samuel 13:19-22.

By the way, the precipitating cause of the Gunfight at the OK Corral? That's right: the Earp/Holliday side set out ostensibly to enforce the Tombstone town ordinance against carrying weapons.
 
not2sharp said:
Politicians get into a standard MO where they are expected to show some tangeable evidence of having accomplished something, and the objective becomes simply one of creating the paper trail. The legislation does not need to be rational, nor need it actually address the issue; the only thing that matters is that the sponsor's name be clearly visible on the bill, and that it provide something that can be added onto that legislator's resume.
n2s
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I've got a political science prof (that's right, I'm still in college) that told us a story about a statistician that used to be a student of his. The guy was told to get data on highway deaths that would support a mandatory vehicle inspection (some Midwest US state). Turns out that the effect would be negligible, but he did have data that, isolated from the rest of the information, looked like it supported the case. They told him to present it at a press conference, but he called in sick.

The moral? You're basically right (at least some time). I have no doubt that at least some politicians really try to do the right thing, but some other percentage just care about getting (re)elected. Acting on isolated statistics and presenting them as fact to support a politically useful weapons ban is just another form of the superficiality of today's political world.

not2sharp said:
The only way to beat this is by encouraging open debate.
n2s
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I've got to agree with Sharp here. The best thing we can do is look at all issues in light of real, fully informed facts. We need to talk about real issues in a real way rather than following the politicians in talking about fake issues in a fake way.

~TMD
 
Good ideas N2S which I will remember, but normaly when the laws come in sale or transfer becomes illegal overnight.

With pistols they had to be surrenderd, but with butterfly knives it just became illegal to sell, give, or transport them by any method. But you could keep the ones you had.

Hopefully either way it wont happen.

Spiral
 
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