Broke my endura

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dcpopo

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Hi All,

Broke the tip off my damn endura today. Had a suicidal perp barricaded in his room with a knife and tried to jimmy the door with my endura. Heard the little click as the tip snapped.

I've had this knife since I joined the Dept. Just learned how to get it to the point where I could push cut paper using my new sharpmaker....

Ended up kicking in the door. His knife.. the 8" serrated cheezy knife that comes in a butcher block that's about 1/32" stamped steel...

Anyway, WTF was I even thinking. I never use that knife for anything. It's not bad, maybe the last 1/16" or so :mad:

-Coop
 
You mention that you had the endura since joining the dept but you don't mention how long you had your spyderco endura and how much of the blade broke.Any pics Also,don't know if you know that their are new endura 4's with thicker blades but don't what difference that would make.
 
dcpopo said:
Broke the tip off my damn endura today. Had a suicidal perp barricaded in his room with a knife and tried to jimmy the door with my endura. ... Anyway, WTF was I even thinking.
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I hate to kick a guy when he's down, but perhaps this link will help. ;) Or, to be less of a smart a$$, this one. Seriously, you should carry a stout multi or SAK or something like that for prying and let the Endura do what it does best, cut.
 
what happened with the guy who was armed? how did you guys disarm him of his weapon after you kicked in the door?
 
During the heat of battle you don't normally stop to consider the well being of the tip of your knife. Your error can be forgiven.

Now go out and get a new Endura 4 w/zdp and you will feel all better! :D
 
No armed suspect in my case. Trying to recover a bullet from a piece of wood, Leathetrman Wave tip went "snap" and broke off 1/16th of the tip.

I did not repair or replace it. I keep it as a reminder to "Live & learn"
 
Sorry about the tip, man. Was it an E3? Their tips are shaped differently than the E4s. If you're only missing about 1/16 of the tip, it might be something that could be reground into a sort of a E4 tip shape. 'Course that might be about the same cost as getting a new E4, unless you know a local knifesmith that could do it for you.

Much as I love all of my D3s, those "splinter picker" tips are not nearly as much to my likin' as the new tips on the D4/E4 series. The new ones seem to be a good bit stronger.
 
I have a good friend who surveys. He designed something similar and had another friend of ours who's a blacksmith make about four of them for his survey team. If your interested, let me know and I'll put you in touch with him.

GregB
 
It's just the last 1/16" or so, not much.

My partner and I were able to disarm him of the knife without injury. Probably the closest I've come to shooting someone. We were at a standoff with maybe 12 feet between us. It would have been over if he took a step. 12 feet ain't exactly much inside and apartment.

Best-Coop

The endura is the older model 5 years or so. It has the pointy tip.
 
you need a Strider for that kind of task, honestly, if you have to use a knife in lieu of a prybar....
 
I wasn't even prying :D

The privacy locks that have a round bolt that engages the frame. Normally, you can open it by slipping something thin straight forward causing the bolt "thingy" to retract back into the door. I was actually more worried that I would dull the cutting portion of the blade.

It's typical of me I guess, I should know by now. I take care and baby everything I own.... then I break it doing something stupid:o

-Coop

I expect a package today that will be a Vic rescue....
 
Most users should carry knives with stouter tips and leave thin tipped cutter to people that baby their knives.

Seriously, people carry their knives every day, but people are rarely carrying any other tool. It's very common to run into a non knife situation and only have a knife to do it with.

Nobody is to blame in these situations, the knife nor the user, so all of you whiny knife collectors who apparently have never been caught without your Batman utility belts need to lay off.

The best solution is for people that carry and may need to use their knives for anything, like an LEO, for instance, should buy stouter knives.
 
J85909266 said:
Most users should carry knives with stouter tips and leave thin tipped cutter to people that baby their knives.

Seriously, people carry their knives every day, but people are rarely carrying any other tool. It's very common to run into a non knife situation and only have a knife to do it with.

Nobody is to blame in these situations, the knife nor the user, so all of you whiny knife collectors who apparently have never been caught without your Batman utility belts need to lay off.

The best solution is for people that carry and may need to use their knives for anything, like an LEO, for instance, should buy stouter knives.
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I disagree really. I think that people should carry a knife and also maybe a SAK or a multitool. That would solve this problem. ;)
 
None of my SAKs have pry bars on them, and none of them are comfortable to carry when I'm already carrying a wallet, cell phone, keys, and folder in my pockets. Granted, my key ring has an Atwood Prybaby and a small SAK on it, but I can't expect every person that wants to carry a knife to have these things. Just buy a stouter knife, and this kind of thing wouldn't happen.
 
J85909266 said:
Most users should carry knives with stouter tips and leave thin tipped cutter to people that baby their knives.

Seriously, people carry their knives every day, but people are rarely carrying any other tool. It's very common to run into a non knife situation and only have a knife to do it with.

Nobody is to blame in these situations, the knife nor the user, so all of you whiny knife collectors who apparently have never been caught without your Batman utility belts need to lay off.

The best solution is for people that carry and may need to use their knives for anything, like an LEO, for instance, should buy stouter knives.
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What do you recommend that is a stouter folding knife? It seems you have some opinion about prying and snapping tips, so maybe you can offer some specific options for those of us who only carry knives but end up using them for non-knife duties. And of course, reasonably priced. customs just don't count.
 
therulebookman said:
What do you recommend that is a stouter folding knife? It seems you have some opinion about prying and snapping tips, so maybe you can offer some specific options for those of us who only carry knives but end up using them for non-knife duties. And of course, reasonably priced. customs just don't count.
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The Spyderco D'allara Drop Point has a very stout tip for a folder that I doubt would have broken in this situation. Still the stock is a bit thin near the tip. The newer Endura 4s also have much stouter tips that would resist breaking much better. There is also the Rescue and Assist lines to consider, which have much stouter blades by design.

Venturing away from Spyderco yields many options. Cold steel makes several thick tipped tanto models that are well priced and would serve well in prying situations. SOG's Tomcat line blades are very thick and stout, as is Buck's Strider line, though it is quickly disappearing. Emerson is another more expensive route.

If you are really sincere and not just trying to corner my argument, I'd be happy to go into more detail and provide links.
 
therulebookman said:
What do you recommend that is a stouter folding knife? It seems you have some opinion about prying and snapping tips, so maybe you can offer some specific options for those of us who only carry knives but end up using them for non-knife duties. And of course, reasonably priced. customs just don't count.
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Spyderco Chinook I, II, or III.
 
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