Broke tip on Endura

Mr. Ren, you are quite certain in your superiority. Thanks for removing all doubt.


My quality issues with spyderco are always design and execution, I've never been refused a repair by any company due to abuse. The knives I do abuse, I don't expect free repair nor do I complain about them on these forums. The basic spyderco designs have always had a problem with tip fragility. This was first pointed out to me by a dealer many years ago...along with the statement that "you'll never lose more than a little bit and spyderco'll regrind it for free...but this CS voyager doesn't have the same problem." I've even read the same statement about spyderco's tips in a "major knife publication" and been told it at knife shows. Go to a show where they sell used knives, and you'll see a lot of tipless spydercos. Too bad spyderco now charges for regrinding.
 
I think we have to remember that people often expect more from a knife than was originally intended. Often times people forget that a piece of steel can break if given the chance. I think it is good of Spyderco to regrind blades that have been broken. At least they will do it! With other manu's you may be out of luck. Since the knives you saw were used, you can only guess as to how they were used. A lot of people abuse tools.
 
My own theory on knife use is that you should evaluate the knife's capabilities and use it within those parameters.

I feel that there is nothing wrong with the design of the Endura, it does what it is supposed to do very well. It simply isn't optimized for stabbing into very hard materials. If it was, it wouldn't be as good at the tasks for which it is designed.

If you want a knife for that kind of use, you need something with a thicker tip, optimized for durability over cutting efficiency. I haven't gotten a Manix yet so I can't say for sure, but it looks like a better choice for those types of needs.

It is good to see that Spyderco will take care of it anyway. They are a good company.

-eleven
 
"The basic spyderco designs have always had a problem with tip fragility."

Spydercos are designed for people that know the difference between a knife and a prybar. The tips are thin for a reason, it is not some kind of "design flaw".:rolleyes:

There are PLENTY of knives that are stronger than many Spydercos. All that strength comes at a huge cost though. A 1/4" thich chisle ground Tanto is probably not going to break but try cutting an apple with one.:rolleyes: It is like trying to use an ax as a paring knife.:D

I use my knive for more than just cutting apples but I also know when I need something other than a knife for the job I am looking to do. If I want to chop wood, I am not going to use a knife much less a folder. If I am going to pry open a window or door, guess what the first tool that comes to mind is, hint, it is not a folding knife.

The reason knives like the Spydercos are rare is that most people are morons. They want everything to be idiot proof. That is why we have to have internal gun lock, 1/4" thick knives that don't cut, waivers for every little thing. Use some common sense and don't use your thin tipped knife as a drill bit or a prybar and you should be okay. I am not saying that Spyderco hasn't made mistakes but I doubt it was their fault. If it was, they will make it right. Even if it wasn't they will still probably make it right because they are a great company.
 
This has been an interesting read. Shows the two main groups of people we have here. The first is the sorry to hear that, maybe you could try this..., and good luck group. The second is the you lack commen sense and have the maturity of a 12 y/o,and oh yes most people are morons group.

I broke one knife in over 30 years of using knives. i did not pry, drill, throw or stab with much force at all. I sliced off a piece of bark and stuck the knife into a live tree, something I have done maybe hundreds of times. Mostly with the small blade of a sak which never snapped , even though I made score of starter hole with it each year.

I don't balme Spyderco, I have been using their knives since the early 90's, I was just a little surprized thats all. I was not drilling,prying, twisting throwing, I simply stuck it into a tree to hold it there for later use.
 
You know, many of us have broken knife tips. Usually by doing something that in retrospect we should not have been doing. Some of these responses may be folks projecting their own flaws.

Caly Jr tip last summer trying to fix a boogie board. Joyce, can I send it in too?
 
Mickey said:
Lone Hunter,
If you don't send your Knife back to Spyderco,send me an e-mail.I might be able to help.
Mickey
shorinki@aol.com
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OMG! the legendary Mickey Yurco! Your stuff Rules! Sorry to sound like a 12 year old, I'm a big fan, and hope you have a website soon.
 
I like the thin fine points because I can remove splinters etc and open up clamshells with EASE. LOVE the penetration of thin soft items. Try that with a thick drop point, etc =]
 
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