Broken crkt Chogan, is it ok to throw full tang hawks?

[Rat Finkenstein]

A hawk should hold up to throwing. The most you should expect from a bad throw with a full tang hawk is possible damage to any scales it might have.






I haven't even had that much happen.

 

[chuxwan]

The only tomahawk I've made has been thrown hundreds of times at ridiculous distances and targets with no issues. I wouldn't expect that from every full tang hawk, because I built mine to play with. That said, you get what you pay for. The price of a CRKT doesn't quite justify a fantastic heat treat...

 

[Scottman]

The estwing is pretty inexpensive and I bet it can stand up to heck of a lot of use or abuse.

 

[foxx]

The curve at the pommel makes the Chogan throw poorly anyway. IMO, a straight shaft makes for a better thrower anyway, much better release. In that regard, the CRKT full tang hawks are not for throwing.

 

[RBurke83]

Hey guys, first time poster here. Just food for thought on the name tomahawk. I'm sure the DoD had a lobbing weapon in mind when the Tomahawk cruise missile was so named. Not to say all tomahawks are for throwing, but I can understand why some have that idea.

 

[jac_solar]

A hawk should hold up to throwing. The most you should expect from a bad throw with a full tang hawk is possible damage to any scales it might have.






I haven't even had that much happen.

What knife is that?

 

[Charlie_K]

What knife is that?

That's no knife, that's a sharpened pry bar. It looks thicker than the hawk.

 

[BenR.T.]

A properly tempered tang on a full tang hawk should never break.

 

[Charlie_K]

A properly tempered tang on a full tang hawk should never break.

Everything breaks. Even the BK2 has been broken during batoning. Don't expect a tomahawk to be immune.

 

[BenR.T.]

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT surprised the tang broke on that hawk and I am not surprised that an $80 factory knife breaks when someone batons it.
Most factory knives (all that I know of) are through hardened and through tempered. Meaning that the entire blade and tang is at the same hardness.
Most custom makers doing full tang tomahawks (including myself); will give the tang a spring temper, which is incredibly tough.

 

[Charlie_K]

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT surprised the tang broke on that hawk and I am not surprised that an $80 factory knife breaks when someone batons it.
Most factory knives (all that I know of) are through hardened and through tempered. Meaning that the entire blade and tang is at the same hardness.
Most custom makers doing full tang tomahawks (including myself); will give the tang a spring temper, which is incredibly tough.

From what I've read, both from Toooj and Mr. Becker himself, the KA-BAR series is differentially tempered/heated, so the blade portion is harder for edge retention whereas the tang portion is springier for durability. Whether or not CRK follows the same process is unknown.

 

[Woods Walker]

I am on the fence about it, I think at least he should take responsibility for breaking it rather than blame CRKT for not calling it a battle hatchet.
I assume most things I throw could break.

Given all the junk many mass produced knife makers pawn off to their customers I wouldn't worry about CRKT having to replace something IMHO. This isn't to say that hawk is junk but betting there is no injustice being done.

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

What knife is that?

Scrapper 6 LE

That's no knife, that's a sharpened pry bar. It looks thicker than the hawk.

learn about geometry.

 

[jonwade92]

I think throwing and tomahawk go hand in hand. This really bums me out cause I was looking into getting a kangee but that handle design looks awful.