Buck 110 Ecolite Paperstone - Why is it not popular?

Been a while since I posted here...

IMO, the Paperstone is an indicator of how out of touch Buck is with the non-hunting outdoor market.

Obviously, the Ecolites weren't being sold to the construction/job-site market. In that market, pocket clips and one hand openers (correctly) dominate.

My sense is that the general non-hunting outdoors market is looking for something very different in a folding knife. The bushcraft crowd has (correctly) popularized flat and scandi ground blades for general outdoor use and the extreme clip point is reminiscent of a by gone era in hunting. Even in the hunting scene the drop point is hugely successful.

In the end, I think the Ecolites were too fat for pocket carry, had a blade shape that only appealed to small part of the hunting market (and not to the outdoor market) and a blade grind that doesn't appeal to the general market. It's fine to say that Buck is a traditional hunting knife company and that's cool. But they already have enough other hunting oriented knives.

Either they should have come out with a slimline Paperstone 112 with a drop point blade (keep the 112 frame shape) or simply done a Paperstone version of the 500 and 501 (and not worry about the 110 size). My 2 cents.

I still think the Paperstone makes sense int eh 500/112/Bucklite Max medium size folder. Just please, loose the clip point and really, give a nice flat grind option.
 
Pinnah,

You may be right, guess I am old school and in the minority in that the more years I use knives the better I like clip blades and hollow grind. Buck did actually make a paperstone 112 with a drop point blade called the Ibex, no FFG, clip or thin handle though. I have one, but prefer the standard bladed paperstone 112.

The Ecolite is gone, so I guess our speculation is a mute point.
 
Ran, I suppose it depends on what the Ecolites were designed for. For hunting, I agree the hollow grind is best. So the issue is handle and blade shape. I found the Ecolite to be a tick thick for pocket carry. Fine in a pack or holster. So, the question is how many hunters would like a lighter holster carry knife, compared to the classic 110? Another way to consider it is why did Boone & Crockett BuckLite Max succeed? Modified drop point. Thumb stud. Pocket clip. Thinner pocket friendly handle.

For general woods life and utility work, I find I cut wood a lot and find that flat/convex blades do better there. Also find that while clips are nice when deboning meat, they're more frail in utility work.

Case and others chug along with their Sodbusters. Basic working knife. Blunter tip. Usually a flat grind (not always). Had Buck thinned the handle a bit, put in a drop point like the 442 blade and maybe added a lanyard hole and put that knife in big box hardware stores and backpacking stores, they might have had a winner. A locking sodbuster.

I'll have to look for that drop point 112. I had a rebladed 112 with a 442 blade but found it just too bulky to pocket carry. My 500 Duke ended up with a lot more use. Not even close. I would really like a light version of the 500 for backpacking and tried the Bucklite Max but it really loosened up very badly very fast.

Buck gets close.
 
I hated the ergonomics on mine and I gave it away. I just wish they kept the same shape of the standard 110 handle, then the knife would be a real winner in my book.
 
Back
Top