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Buck 110 - New York City

Discussion in 'Knife Laws' started by Hands, Aug 18, 2018.

  1. Hands

    Hands

    17
    Aug 17, 2018
    Quick story for some opinions.

    So I've been carrying a leatherman on my belt in a leather sheath for about a year or so. I carried one longer before my current but lost it so there was a year break when I didn't wear anything.

    I wear it every day. The first week I was worried. Yes the blade is very small but it's New York and the cops are a little on edge sometimes especially if they see it from your belt.
    That being said I've walked down Times Square and went all over the city. I've never been stopped. People I work with have mentioned it but don't seem to care.
    A client said I was brandishing a weapon, he commutes from a farm so it was warning he wasn't threatened or anything.

    Granted I look like someone working or traveling through the city and I really don't stand out.

    That being said I'm going to start carrying a Buck 110 Original.
    I know it's huge but it will be in my pocket.

    What do you guys think am I really rolling the dice on this. I do work in the city in an IT type field so I actually have to use a knife often but I probably will use the leatherman instead of whipping out the 110 unless the task calls for it.
    Should I pick up a 112 for this or maybe even a Buck LT I've been eyeballing.

    The LT is nearly the same as 110 but because of the weight a cop might give it a pass whereas with the 110 he might be a pissed.
     
  2. tom19176

    tom19176 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2005
    NYC enforces two knife laws: NYC Admin Code 10-133 and NYS PL 265.01. The admin code says the knife must have a blade under 4" and should not be visible unless on your way to work and needed for work. The penal law issue is a gravity knife charge. Many Buck 110s CAN be flicked open holding the handle and ALL of them can be flicked open holding the blade and flicking the handle. Both methods have been allowed in court to sustain a gravity knife charge. If you choose to carry the 110, make sure to tap the blade pin with a hammer so it will not flick open, carry it concealed so it will not be seen or print in your clothing. I suggest not carrying it in NYC. This not legal advise, so make your own decision. The NYPD has over 30,000 members and job performance is often judged by arrest activity of an officer.
     
  3. Trevor_Phillips

    Trevor_Phillips

    72
    Aug 22, 2016
    I wouldn't even risk carrying a paperclip in New York. If it were me, I'd play it safe and keep a disposable box cutter at work. If you REALLY want to have a 110 or 112 at work, I'd ask the boss if it's OK to leave it at work.
     
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  4. Hands

    Hands

    17
    Aug 17, 2018
    Thank you Tom. Thanks a lot. It's legality when it comes to gravity does seem to be an issue but this is something I've heard before.
    Dare I say this falls under how bad does the person looking at the knife want to arrest/write you.
    This helps a lot.
     
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  5. tom19176

    tom19176 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2005
    Your welcome. Sad that things are this way in NYC.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2018
  6. cheesemaster

    cheesemaster

    84
    Jun 29, 2012
    Strict legality aside, you're risking a hassle that could cost you time and money.
     
  7. sgt244

    sgt244 Gold Member Gold Member

    787
    Mar 15, 2010
    If an officer sees you with it / finds it on you... It could be classed as a gravity knife which you could be arrested / summonsed for and the knife will be taken away. Not worth carrying it. NYC is not knife or gun friendly at all. They have a zero tolerance policy on it all.
     
  8. Minnesota Man

    Minnesota Man Basic Member Basic Member

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    Sep 30, 2014
    Not real legal advice but...... I most certainly wouldn't carry that knife anywhere near NYC! Could prove to be a very expensive and legal hassle! I feel naked being knifeless as I'm sure most of us do. I'd leave a 110 at work and carry a Leatherman Squirt PS4 or PS4 EOD if you need to strip wire.
    One simple thing can lead to a trip to Riker's Island.
     
  9. I have a feeling New York will be the hardest state to get to change their knife laws. Cuomo and the NYPD seem stubbornly adamant on hanging onto the gravity knife law and not much progress has been made in the courts yet. That said, I applaud Doug Ritter and Knife Rights for their continued efforts. Hopefully at some point some progress will be made.
     
    Prester John likes this.
    Some say New Jersey is the worst state for knife laws since the offenses there are straight up felonies instead of misdemeanors. They're probably the worst as far as penalties. But I think they would make changes to their laws long before New York ever does.
     

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