Buck 110 or modern folders

This is what I mean by comfortable balance - best balance for working knife:

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Endura is plaing in different league - clipits. Lightweight knives with excellent steel, which clipped to jeans pocket. On my opinion it is fo casuall cutting, but it will be hard to imagine to carve like axe handle from the piece of wood for an hour or two using Endura. It may stand it without falling apart, but you hand will be hurt for sire, just because handle is too thin. Also balance of 110 make it easy to hold and operate. So on my opinion it is "working knife" (which is also proven by millions of customers who use it on the field).

So if you need knife for work - get 110 (CPM S30V from Cabela's or CPM 154 from Bass Pro) - it is most comfortable for real work. If you need knife to be always on you jeance pocket - get Clipit (Delica ZDP-189 or better Kershaw Leek ZDP) - they will be most comfortable to carry, and very good if you need to do some small cutting time to time.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Amazingly nobody has mentioned pivot adjustability or the lack thereof. I don't relish giving up a knife for a trip to the manufacturer to eliminate bladeplay.:confused:
 
Larry S. said:
Amazingly nobody has mentioned pivot adjustability or the lack thereof. I don't relish giving up a knife for a trip to the manufacturer to eliminate bladeplay.:confused:
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Most forumites feel comfortable using a hammer to eliminate bladeplay.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Having taken my fair share of knives apart just to see what make them ticks and then put them back together I can tell you the 110 is a stout well made folder. You can rely on it to perform for you. In quality it compares to many knives much more expensive to purchase.

On the issue of weight. If weight is an issue and you like the knife get you a Buck 560. You see them for sale now and then. It basically a 110 with titanium scales so its the 110 without the weight.

On the issue of one hand opening. That can be fixed also. Granted its harder to open due to that extra stout spring but it is certainly something that can be done providing you don't sit around opening and closing it repeatedly. If you only use it when you need it its fine. Besides thumb studs I've also installed pocket clips on 110s, 112s, and 560s both for myself and forum members. And besides that, many guys have no problem opening any of the 500 series Buck knives, the 112, or the 110 by simply grabbing the blade up by the thumb nick and using the weight as an easy way to let gravity open the knife up for you. I used mine as a one handed knife for years that way, and my Buck 501 also.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59722&d=1157560695

STR
 
560 Ti handle, adjustable pivot screw, bg-42 or S30V blade, sheet metal 4-way pocket clip - a modern 110 would be born.

Out of the core buyer market, I suspect.
 
Rarely does anyone have just ONE 110 if they use them. Should one need repair, Buck will do it under a near perfect no fault warranty.

I have never had a user 110 come up with a loose blade. Admit tho that deer processing doesn't beat on one all that bad.

I can open and close any production non modified 110 one handed. Maybe that comes from using one since late 70's. And no,,never been cut doing it.

and no...I do not carry one as an edc simply because that big of a knife isn't usually needed for what I do. I do EDC one every day during hunting season.

For the $27 to $30 cost of a new 110, it is hard to go wrong.
 
I would like to see accurate, verifiable sales data for the 110 over the last 15 years. My guess is there's a reason you can get them so cheaply now: fewer and fewer people are buying them. I'm not saying all those potential customers are buying Enduras; probably a lot of that trade has gone over to Leatherman, not to mention all the other modern single blade folders like Gerber Gator, Benchmades and so forth. But think about it ..... when I was in high school (mid '80s) a 110 would run over $50! Now you can sometimes pick 'em up at Wal Mart for under $30. :confused:

Don't get me wrong, the 110 is an outstanding knife for what it is (and if I ever need to spend an hour or two carving an ax handle from a piece of wood, I may just locate one to use ..... or just go to Home Depot and buy a new ax handle). But even for all it's devotes here in knifegeekdom, I would not want to invest my dough in a company that anchored its product line with such an anachronism. Judging by what's in the Buck catalog of late, I think the Buck folks too have seen the writing on the wall.
 
I think the 110 is a great knife for many of the already mentioned reasons and will always be a classic to us that actually grew up with the 110 on our belt. I still remember in my late teens never leaving to go anyware without the 110 (usually one with a broken tip from daily abuse) in the trusty (scratched up) sheath on my belt. Back then a leather sheath was cool and also matched our leather watchbands and leather boots. Back then you didn't hide your Buck, you hung it out for display. Probably should not have posted this, now I feel old.
 
mnblade said:
I would like to see accurate, verifiable sales data for the 110 over the last 15 years. My guess is there's a reason you can get them so cheaply now: fewer and fewer people are buying them. I'm not saying all those potential customers are buying Enduras; probably a lot of that trade has gone over to Leatherman, not to mention all the other modern single blade folders like Gerber Gator, Benchmades and so forth. But think about it ..... when I was in high school (mid '80s) a 110 would run over $50! Now you can sometimes pick 'em up at Wal Mart for under $30. :confused:

Don't get me wrong, the 110 is an outstanding knife for what it is (and if I ever need to spend an hour or two carving an ax handle from a piece of wood, I may just locate one to use ..... or just go to Home Depot and buy a new ax handle). But even for all it's devotes here in knifegeekdom, I would not want to invest my dough in a company that anchored its product line with such an anachronism. Judging by what's in the Buck catalog of late, I think the Buck folks too have seen the writing on the wall.
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Well did you have Walmart back in mid 80th? Or may be you had old retail stores which charges MSRP (which I belive is about $60 for 110). Do you remember prices for other stuff now pretty cheap in WallMart back to the 80th?

Now about anachronism - there is a concept of ideal construction - like Russian Souz rocket which out-live super modern Shuttle with thousands succesfull launches and counting - introduced same time as 110! And with ideal design if you need modern steel - get 154CPM (nobody else producing nives with this PM steel now) from BassPro or CPM S30V...

Buck was introduced 1963 - how many super-modern knives from that time are completely fogotten now? Hundreds models goes away but Buck110 is here and pretty succesfull.

Which knife has more clones then this one? Still with higher price among this clones it is pretty succesfull on the market.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Larry S. said:
Amazingly nobody has mentioned pivot adjustability or the lack thereof. I don't relish giving up a knife for a trip to the manufacturer to eliminate bladeplay.:confused:
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Funny that you should mention the pivot....

First, I question whether an adjustble pivot is even an asset on a lock-back folder.
Especially a folder that was designed with the outdoorsman in mind.
The last thing I need to worry about in the field is a loose screw.
And a small screwdriver is just one more item to keep track of in the field.
Even the military was smart enough to choose rifles that can be "field stripped" without the use of any tools.

And of all the knives I have ever used in my forty years of life, it's the ones with adjustable pivots that have given me the most problems.
Honestly, how many folks here have used Loc-Tite on a pivot screw?
I know I have!
 
From mnblade"
I would like to see accurate, verifiable sales data for the 110 over the last 15 years. My guess is there's a reason you can get them so cheaply now: fewer and fewer people are buying them. I'm not saying all those potential customers are buying Enduras; probably a lot of that trade has gone over to Leatherman, not to mention all the other modern single blade folders like Gerber Gator, Benchmades and so forth. But think about it ..... when I was in high school (mid '80s) a 110 would run over $50! Now you can sometimes pick 'em up at Wal Mart for under $30.
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The world has changed alot over the years.
When I was in high school we could carry pocket-knives, but those days are long gone.
And when I was young all the kids played in the woods and carried knives.
Today it seems that most kids don't want to put down the the X-Box or the Game-cube.
And many adults are no better.
The simple fact is that folks don't carry knives like they used to.
And as we move farther away from a rural/agricultural society and more towards an urbanized/industrial one, fewer and fewer folks will carry a knife.
 
Modern machining methods like CNC machines and computers have made it possible to make more knives more accurately with higher quality control for Buck. (and everyone else) When we grew up and they were 50 bucks they were probably built a lot differently than todays methods.

I think its worth mentioning that a retailer like Wal-Mart is alone capable of selling the Buck 110 for less retail than any other dealer can buy it for wholesale. When I was at A.G. Russell's place and asked to see one he looked at me square in the eyes and told me that fact and then recommended if I wanted one of those to just pick one up at Wal-Mart.

I'm telling you there is nothing wrong with the Buck 110. It fits in as many lives today as it did when I grew up, nostalgia not withstanding.

I would suggest asking the guys at the knife counter at Wal-Mart that do the ordering how many they sell per week, per month, per year and they'll give you an idea of sales.

STR
 
I carried my 110 during high school a lot. I placed it in a drawer at my parents' house and replaced it with a frn spyderco endura in 1993, when I first laid eyes on the spyderco at a gun show it was like an epiphany. The 110 with the black leather sheath I had is still in the drawer at my parents' house. I still have that endura, too. Weight was THE big factor. The 110 may only be 3.5oz more than a spyderco military (4.2oz or so), but that still adds up to 1/2 pound of knife. Different strokes for different folks, though. I'm glad we don't all like the same knife, or that would be the only knife in production, and that wouldn't be any fun at all.
 
I've been spoiled by thumb studs, pocket clips, and Axis locks...damn you Benchmade! But I still have a healthy appreciation for the 110.
 
Anyone know if Walmart is going to have another special package 110 like they did for Christmas last year?
 
allenC said:
From mnblade"

The world has changed alot over the years.
When I was in high school we could carry pocket-knives, but those days are long gone.
And when I was young all the kids played in the woods and carried knives.
Today it seems that most kids don't want to put down the the X-Box or the Game-cube.
And many adults are no better.
The simple fact is that folks don't carry knives like they used to.
And as we move farther away from a rural/agricultural society and more towards an urbanized/industrial one, fewer and fewer folks will carry a knife.
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Gawd that's sad!
 
While I believe that the newer knives are much better in most respects, I've had my Buck 110 for 30 years and would get rid of it for anything. I've got a bad knee now and age is taking it's toll but for many years, my 110 was what I carried on all my hunting trips. It's field dressed 2 dear, countless rabbits, and a few squirrels. It means more to me and brings back more memories than all my other knives put together. When my wife gave it to me for Christmas one year, it opened up my eyes to a whole new world of knives and knife collecting. Buck 110....everyone has to own a Buck 110.

Regards
 
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