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If Richard Matheny says so, it's gospel as far as I'm concerned. End of story.
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Yeah, Fritz.....you wouldn't want to confuse yourself with the facts if your mind is already made up.

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Plumberdv said:
Can you provide absolute proof that they weren't? Just because YOU say there were no date stamps later than '86 doesn't mean that they weren't produced with older blades that had been previously stamped.
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Here's the thing.

Most of us who deal in facts tend to conclude that if nobody's ever seen a pink unicorn and nobody can produce an actual pink unicorn.....THERE AIN'T ANY.

:D
 
To JoeBW, Here's a post that tells something about the newer 111 model (not the "Classic") that has been discontinued.

#4 11-04-2009, 01:17 PM
Bill Keys
Registered User Join Date: May 2000
Location: Post Falls, Idaho
Posts: 71

Actually, the 111 was not discontinued do to any difficulty in production, it was purely and ecconomic decision. Retailers as a whole, looked at the "standard" 111 as a 110. Our desire was to introduce a 110esque knife that mid and small retail could sell for more to compete with the Big Boxes (since they would not have the 111). Unfortunately, the 111 is viewed largely as a 110, so to a lot of people there was no reason to switch to the 111. So, we opted to use if for various special items and custom stuff.

Bill Keys
Director of Manufacturing
Buck Knives, Inc
 
Then there's this about the 111 Classic.

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More on the 111 Classic

I also found a statement by Mr.Matheny saying that they were released in limited runs until '95 or '96. I'll continue searching the archives until I find that thread and post it also.

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Here's a statement from Joe regarding them being reintroduced.

07-14-2000, 10:54 AM
Joe Houser
Moderator Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Post Falls, Idaho U.S.A.
Posts: 2,834

Frank,

Funny thing about the 111, it was discontinued several times before it stayed discontinued! We kept getting large orders for it and had to keep reviving it. Alas, there are no plans in the works to bring it back although you never know.

I am glad to hear that your dad liked his knife, i could tell that he used it a lot so i was happy to put it back in service.

Take care,

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Joe Houser
Director of Consumer relations Buck Collectors club Administrator
 
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Good info Plum, I guess theres still plenty of room for argument, that was was obviously written by a pink unicorn:p
 
imafritz said:
Good info Plum, I guess theres still plenty of room for argument, that was was obviously written by a pink unicorn:p
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LOL. I'm still looking for the statement by Mr. Matheny about the limited runs being produced. They are probably what Joe was referring to in his statement about them being revived.:thumbup:

I've seen a few pink elephants in my lifetime, but never a pink unicorn. ;)
 
Unfortunately, written information such as Dave produced is just speculation and rumor until somebody comes up with an actual knife to back up the claims.

And repeatedly posting such speculative written information just waste of everybody's time and bandwidth.

All that counts is producing an example of the knife in question......and if this pink unicorn actually did exist.....we'd have seen a picture by now.

Don't delay......if you have one, post a pic.

;)
 
I'll now be searching in an attempt to find documents that prove that Bigfoot actually exists.

If I can find something in writing that says Bigfoot exists......it has to be true.

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David Martin said:
Thanks Plumber for your time in retrieving this information . DM
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You know what David? Newer blade stamps wouldn't even have to exist for them to have been reintroduced a number of times after they were discontinued. In fact, the spec sheet dated in 2004 only mentions 3 and 4 dot blades. It could be that's all there ever were, I have no idea only having seen the 3 and 4 dot stamps. There may have been a stockpile of polished and date stamped blades that were used much later to produce the new runs.

That's how the mystery of the 1988 blades being on the four color etched Eagle 110 (introduced in 1990) was explained by Joe just recently.:thumbup:
 
I will be searching for documents that suggest this is a discussion forum, not a children's playground.
Nyah nyah nyah I got your unicorn right here is not a legitimate element of an adult discussion.

Stop it.
 
You're right, I got carried away in responding to speculative claims without proof.

Thus the unicorn.

I will delete it as the waste of bandwidth that it is.

Thanks.

Still waiting for somebody to post a pic of a 111 Classic that has a tang stamp later than 1986.
 
Thanks.

Standards of evidence vary, depending on the case. Some evidence is good enough to consider a strong foundation for further searching. Dismissing it because it's not absolute evidence would cut off a lot of chances to find that absolute evidence.

As long as they are clear that they rely on documentation, that is, someone else's word, they aren't deceiving anyone. They are providing history. Like all history, it isn't always possible for the archaeologist to find the one artifact he really hopes to see.
 
Plumberdv said:
You know what David? Newer blade stamps wouldn't even have to exist for them to have been reintroduced a number of times after they were discontinued. In fact, the spec sheet dated in 2004 only mentions 3 and 4 dot blades. It could be that's all there ever were, I have no idea only having seen the 3 and 4 dot stamps. There may have been a stockpile of polished and date stamped blades that were used much later to produce the new runs.

That's how the mystery of the 1988 blades being on the four color etched Eagle 110 (introduced in 1990) was explained by Joe just recently.:thumbup:
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:thumbup:

This happens alot :D

Thanks Dave, and David! :thumbup:
 
All true, Esav.

But speaking of history, we've run into cases before where the written history turned out to have no factual basis--meaning that the knives that were claimed to have been manufactured simply were not in existence.

So, I submit that the claims will not be proven until an actual knife shows up.

I await that happy moment.

;)
 
PlumberD said:

There may have been a stockpile of polished and date stamped blades that were used much later to produce the new runs.
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I'm accepting this bit of speculation as a roundabout way of conceding that nobody will be able to post a picture of a 111 Classic that has a tang stamp later than 1986.

That about wraps it.
 
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