Buck 112 F+F problems? - help- UPDATE- AGAIN

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dizz

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My new 112 arrived today and I'm a little disappointed

I know Im on the fussy side so I thought I would ask the forums opinion on this.

It has three/four problems as far as I can see, which my 110 did not have


1. On the top spine of the blade about 1" from the tip (non sharp side) there is a very small nic/dent.
2. The back spring isn't quite flush, either open or closed, mainly at the locking end of the knife.
3. With the blade shut there is side to side play, enough for it to just touch the bolster on one side, it just feels loose.
4. Its gritty to open (not a real problem as I can flush with oil to fix)

Am I being over the top?

thanks.
 
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No you're not being over the top. As with anything mass produced, a few lemons get through now and then. Send it back to buck and they'll send you one that is absolutely perfect. Buck is real good about that. The bright side is by getting a faulty model, you'll probably get one that's put together better than usual.
 
bt93 said:
No you're not being over the top. As with anything mass produced, a few lemons get through now and then. Send it back to buck and they'll send you one that is absolutely perfect. Buck is real good about that. The bright side is by getting a faulty model, you'll probably get one that's put together better than usual.
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Yeah, it's a bit of an inconvenience but, they'll take care of you in the end.
 
From someone who has a 112 in their hand can you tell me that the blade moving from side to side when closed is not normal and should be solid on this model?
 
I have a 110, same thing only bigger.There should be no side to side movement open or closed. By all means contact Buck and see about sending it in.
 
I bought it from a dealer so I'll send it back to them, they have a good reputation for customer service.
 
It in the post today going back to the dealer, hopefully for a immaculate and pristine replacement. [emoji4]
 
Right the replacement has arrived......

I'm not convinced its not the same knife but as I didn't take any pictures I cant be sure.

So here goes....

1. On the top spine of the blade about 1" from the tip (non sharp side) there is a very small nic/dent.
Still has the small nic/dent on the top spine of the blade.

2. The back spring isn't quite flush, either open or closed, from half way towards the locking end of the knife.
The back spring still isn't quite flush, maybe slightly better though.

3. With the blade shut there is side-to-side play, enough for it to just touch the bolster on one side, it just feels loose.
This is much better, with little to no discernible play, I happy with this now.

4. Its gritty to open (not a real problem as I can flush with oil to fix)
Still gritty, so ill get on with cleaning and oiling it myself.

I cant be bothered to send it back again as the big gripe was number 3. and that's fixed as far as I can tell, so its a keeper

So did they just do something to the blade to take out the slop?....who knows
 
I recommend ALWAYS return to factory! Might be a big dealer but they are limited in what they can do!
 
Check out buck-store.co.uk
That appears to be Buck's official store. Go to the bottom and click 'contact' and then phone or email them. I'm pretty sure they'll take care of you. Give it one more time with an official Buck organization. Sometimes messing with a dealer just doesn't get it done.
 
Or just use the heck out of it and you'll put your own dings in it that dwarf the little one and the opening and closing will smooth out on their own. My 112 is a serous user and it's held up nicely.

Zieg
 
Thanks dunc5,

All the Buck brothers on this side of the pond appreciate you helping dizz.

300Bucks, Moderator
 
Thanks chaps, I have cleaned and oiled it and it's smooth now but the back spring is still bugging me so I'll send a email and let you know how I get on.
 
As the OP of this thread here is yet another update......

I returned the knife to Whitby knives (thanks dunc5) with a written explanation as to what I was expecting of the replacement knife under the BUCK 'forever' warranty

Well its arrived today and its just the bloody same as the first two!!!

Its a different knife that's for sure but the back spring still doesn't line up, so that's three knives all displaying the same problem (to me anyway) despite being very specific about what I was looking for in the two replacement knives.

So I'm guessing they are all the same and a completely flush back spring is just not possible?

Im not going to waste anymore time/money posting it back yet again and I will have to clean and oil this one as its also gritty just like the others, crap and grit is falling out of it onto the desk as I open and close it.

Oh well Its still a nice knife, just not a safe queen as its not perfect, perhaps that's a good thing.
 
Dizz,

IMO, the 112 is the prettiest knife Buck makes. Everything about the lines works for me (particularly the old ones, which lack a nail nick). In use, I prefer and carry the 110 more often but to look at, the 112 is prettier.

Anyway.... I've got more lockbacks than any other style of knife. Good number of both Buck and older Schrades. Obviously I like the design well enough to have a bunch. This said, I accept that the design has some built-in limitations.

1) None that I've owned will stand up to really hard cutting forces. (I suspect the Cold Steel Triad lock design addresses this better than a vanilla lock back).

2) Flush spring seems to be "luck of the draw" on production knives. I have some that are flush open and closed, some that are proud one way but not the other and a few that proud both ways. <shrug>


Couple of suggestions...

a) I suspect that 300Bucks and some others might be able to get in you direct email contact from the mother ship. They might be able to work something out for you without dealing with awful shipping costs.

b) Based on my experience, you may be asking too much from a stock, production lock back. If you want a more perfect 112, you may need to pay more "perfect" prices from the custom shop.

c) When I find my busy and addled mind starting to worry about such things, I reread this bit from a Sports Illustrated interview with Bob Loveless.

In fact, if there is any apologizing to be done, Loveless figures that it is owed to him by customers who refuse to treat his work as something of utility, who put his knives in cases and "fondle and drool over them."
"Ninety percent of my knives aren't used!" he exclaims. "And, damn it, they should be out working. That's why I make them. When some old cowboy or guide comes back to me with a knife that's worn down to a nub and he says, 'That thing fit my hand better than any knife I'd ever had, and it worked longer, too,' that's fame. That's what I'm on earth for. A knife is a tool, and if we don't treat our tools with a certain familiar contempt, we lose perspective."
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Get some scratches on the 112. That's what it was made for. ;^)
 
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