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Oh ok. Gotcha I think.... so start a new one correct?
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Buck 317...what a work horse
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buckman,
Generally, bringing back a really old thread and then posting at the end of it is usually considered back technique. It would be better, if you read through a old thread and want to discuss something in it, to start a completely new one on your own. It is OK, to copy a photo or two or someone's single post that you want to talk about and bring it forward into the new thread you start. But, don't just post on the end of a really old thread and bring it all back up to the current time. Some of the posts in the 317 thread are from people who are old Buck forum members who have passed away.
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Generally, bringing back a really old thread and then posting at the end of it is usually considered back technique. It would be better, if you read through a old thread and want to discuss something in it, to start a completely new one on your own. It is OK, to copy a photo or two or someone's single post that you want to talk about and bring it forward into the new thread you start. But, don't just post on the end of a really old thread and bring it all back up to the current time. Some of the posts in the 317 thread are from people who are old Buck forum members who have passed away.
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Generally speaking.... yes....
However, starting endless threads could be frowned upon as well, depending on the topics etc....
If it is to show a photo of a prized knife, rare or not, then there is a tradition here to post it in the weekly "sunday picture show" thread that Armand starts every sunday. That is one of the highlights of the week for many many folks here
If it is to discuss a model or knife etc in depth, certainly a new thread is ideal
Once again, just a couple general guidlines that I try to follow.
Keep in mind the long time members answer the same questions over and over and over, sometimes several times a day.
So ideally, people should search for answers first, then ask if the answers are not to be found
Whoops... 300 answered while I got distracted....lol
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buckman,
Lets take this for example: A question was asked in this thread about Camillus Knife having a website. I could start a new thread about that but its discussion value is limited. Instead I will do a single post here and answer the question from earlier in the post.
The Camillus Knife Company, that produced 300 series knives for Buck does not exist. It was foreclosed on and sold I think about 2007. The name was then purchased by a holding company and imported knives are being sold as Camillus knives. Go to the website and look at the bottom and see who owns the company. There are NO parts for Buck knives available at that website, there are very few parts in the hands of Buck. Individuals purchased all the leftover, partial made and loose parts that were left. Some who have assembled them worked doing the same thing on the old factory floor. To their credit I consider them "good" Camillus made Buck 300s. Again, the 317 is a version made for Buck that had a close brother that was marked Camillus. Some of the guts of the two knives were the same, with just little scale, bolster and stamping differences between them. Camillus made, 300 series knives were shipped to Buck in batches and Buck placed them in Buck marked boxes to be sold by their dealers. 'Old' Camillus has a long history and made a great number of knives for other people. (Old Timer, Western) If you are interested in this go to the Collectors Forum, and click on the Camillus area. 300
Lets take this for example: A question was asked in this thread about Camillus Knife having a website. I could start a new thread about that but its discussion value is limited. Instead I will do a single post here and answer the question from earlier in the post.
The Camillus Knife Company, that produced 300 series knives for Buck does not exist. It was foreclosed on and sold I think about 2007. The name was then purchased by a holding company and imported knives are being sold as Camillus knives. Go to the website and look at the bottom and see who owns the company. There are NO parts for Buck knives available at that website, there are very few parts in the hands of Buck. Individuals purchased all the leftover, partial made and loose parts that were left. Some who have assembled them worked doing the same thing on the old factory floor. To their credit I consider them "good" Camillus made Buck 300s. Again, the 317 is a version made for Buck that had a close brother that was marked Camillus. Some of the guts of the two knives were the same, with just little scale, bolster and stamping differences between them. Camillus made, 300 series knives were shipped to Buck in batches and Buck placed them in Buck marked boxes to be sold by their dealers. 'Old' Camillus has a long history and made a great number of knives for other people. (Old Timer, Western) If you are interested in this go to the Collectors Forum, and click on the Camillus area. 300
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Oh cool I see, I usually research a great deal before I ask anyway. Bit I do like the buck page so far only been here a few days. Thanks 300 .
You are so right about the 317. I was in the Navy back in the late 70's (77). After being on board for just a few week's I saw the 317 sitting in the ship's store. Next payday it was mine for $16.50. It came shaving sharp out of the box. I carried it for the next 3 1/2 years. After being discharged I worked several jobs and it was still on my side. Then I found the job I would work for the next 30 years (a police officer) and it was on my duty belt right behind my sidearm.
Everything you said about the feel and quality is spot on. It is my opinion that (that's the one that counts to me) this is the best knife I have or ever will own. The only thing is that after so much wear and tear the sheath finally started tearing on the back side were the belt loop is stitched. I put it up wishing to keep it in tact as best as possible. Now I hit the gun show's, yard sale's, pawn shop's and flea market's in hopes of finding the exact replacement or at least one that will fit it properly. I haven't stopped carrying it either, I put a monkey fist knot on the end and carry it in my pocket. When you find a tool that always works you keep it with you.
Sorry about the lengthy reply. Just wanted to let you know you have a "knife for life".
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I think thoes old 300s are as American as Apple pie. There my favorites. I have an extra 317 sheath btw.
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Ok, One more time.
Paul, I like 317s also, do some research on them in this forum and you will see a lot of info, BUT it is bad forum technique to bring back a thread with very old posts or to continue to comment on one. We had explained that to buckman earlier in this thread. Some of the people that wrote stuff at the beginning of this thread are dead, it is so old. Paul, all you did wrong is not realize you were posting in a bad thread, otherwise your copy technique was good.
Everyone who doesn't understand what I am saying - Don't just click on a really old thread and then re-post in it today. Look and see how old it is, at least skim thru the whole thread and see what is going on. In this case I understand you are learning technique, apparently still so is buckman, so unless it is really, really, really important don't bring the old threads forward. Paul did ok with his post but if you really need to show or quote a really old thread, please learn to copy stuff (like Paul did) and insert it in a post you write as a completely new thread. Again, if you read something you agree with and want to comment on, or otherwise, in a really really old thread please start a completely new thread by clicking on the blue background "Post a new thread" box (This is what Paul should have done) at the top of the Buck Forum home page. Buckman, now with this and the above comments you should understand , don't continue to comment on this old thread, instead figure out how and what to say and help the newbies to the forum with nice directions on 'How to do correct posting'. If you wanted to help Paul out with a sheath, you should have Private messaged him.
If anyone wishes to discuss this with me, you can send me email or Private message, I am going to lock it so it will be laid to rest.
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Paul, I like 317s also, do some research on them in this forum and you will see a lot of info, BUT it is bad forum technique to bring back a thread with very old posts or to continue to comment on one. We had explained that to buckman earlier in this thread. Some of the people that wrote stuff at the beginning of this thread are dead, it is so old. Paul, all you did wrong is not realize you were posting in a bad thread, otherwise your copy technique was good.
Everyone who doesn't understand what I am saying - Don't just click on a really old thread and then re-post in it today. Look and see how old it is, at least skim thru the whole thread and see what is going on. In this case I understand you are learning technique, apparently still so is buckman, so unless it is really, really, really important don't bring the old threads forward. Paul did ok with his post but if you really need to show or quote a really old thread, please learn to copy stuff (like Paul did) and insert it in a post you write as a completely new thread. Again, if you read something you agree with and want to comment on, or otherwise, in a really really old thread please start a completely new thread by clicking on the blue background "Post a new thread" box (This is what Paul should have done) at the top of the Buck Forum home page. Buckman, now with this and the above comments you should understand , don't continue to comment on this old thread, instead figure out how and what to say and help the newbies to the forum with nice directions on 'How to do correct posting'. If you wanted to help Paul out with a sheath, you should have Private messaged him.
If anyone wishes to discuss this with me, you can send me email or Private message, I am going to lock it so it will be laid to rest.
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