Buck-Cote: Is it everything they say?

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Woodie

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Ok, so here comes a newbie posting a question that can be answered with "search." This should get me flamed over in General.

I'm looking at a BuckCote Vanguard over at AGRussell and liking it a lot. So, I did a search on "cote" in this forum and didn't find a whole lot of chatter in the last year. There was a bundle through early 2000. What gives? Is enthusiasm for BuckCote down?

I even read the threads and searched on "ionfusion." Is this process hype or for real?

Thanks,

Nick
 
The coating is certainly "for real". It is so hard that when I tried some experiments in steeling the blade of my Vanguard I cut into my steel.

My Vanguard took a pretty good edge. It has a slight tendency to not cut quite as straight as a normal blade. The only problem I found was if you ding the blade.

I damaged mine more or less on purpose while doing experiments. I took several hunting knives and experimented with beef ribs. I used all of the knives to strip meat from the bones and then I used the knives to chop notches in the side of the bones. I wanted to somewhat simulate the stresses involved in splitting the ribs and pelvis of game.

Both the Buckcote Vanguard and a $10.00 Swedish survival knife with 12C27 aloy blade got their edges significantly indented. I was able to steel and hone essentially all of the damage out of the survival knife, but I could only undo about 50% of the damage to the Buckcote edge. Part of the vulnerability of the Buckcote blade comes from the asymetrical edge grind. In order to run the coating up to the edge yet leave a place to hone the Buckcote blade has its final edge grind on only one side. This is kind of like a chisel grind blade. The other side is at a steep angle and is weaker. When I chopped bone with the edge it bent over to the unground side where I dinged it.

As I understand it Buck will regrind edges (for a modest fee) if you damage them and maybe my chopping is outside the scope of what you would do. So the Buckcote Vanguard might work for you. What I found absolutely outstanding was my BG42 alloy Vanguard Master Series. It happily chopped bones without even dulling the edge. It is my personal favorite.

If I was going to get a Vanguard right now I would pick one with the 420HC blade over one with Buckcote, but that is a function of my use and preferences.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jeff Clark:
What I found absolutely outstanding was my BG42 alloy Vanguard Master Series. It happily chopped bones without even dulling the edge. It is my personal favorite.</font>
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Just goes to show you: Buck REALLY needs to do more knives in BG42 (not just BuckLocks, and LINER LOCKS
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Buck and BG42 is a combination that just can't be beat.

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iktomi
 
I agree with Rockspyder on this one! A knife like, say, the Mentor; 5" blade with BG-42 steel, a good point and plenty of belly; add some wood scales and voila, a terrific all around knife.
I wish Pete's would offer this sort of option.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Woodie:
Do you have a BG-42 Vanguard or other Buck Rockspyder?</font>
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Uuuuuu BETCHA! Yes to both questions.

I actually have more Buck knives than any other brand, in spite of my dislike for 420HC (don't get me started on that, so don't ask). Buck is simply the finest knife company on the planet, IMO. And their BG42 is the third best thing I've run across, after custom D2 and any Talonite.

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iktomi
 
hey woodie -if you are interested in a buckcote vanguard send me an email.

I have never had a problem with any buckcoted knife. The edge might not be quite as sharp but for 90% of cutting jobs it will handle it with no trouble, and less dulling of the blade.

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Best knife company on the planet!?!?! Better than Benchmade?!?! You da man, I gotta believe ya!

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Yeah, IMO, Buck is a better knife company than Benchmade. Benchmade has more innovation, and uses better steel. But, being a knife <u>company</u> goes much further than that. And in that going further, I think Buck is tops. JMO.
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iktomi
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Woodie:
Best knife company on the planet!?!?!</font>
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Check out this thread and you will see why I say they are the best knife company on the planet.

'nuff said.
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iktomi
 
Wow! That's 'nuff alright. You rarely see customer service threads without some kind of complaint. That link is some testimonial.

I'm convinced!
 
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