Buck Ghost Rider?

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mschwoeb

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Anyone know what is up with this knife? It looks like Buck is taking a bunch of features from Strider and putting them into a china made knife. Sorry to say it but it looks like they have started copying other knife companies when I see a product that has so many features that are virtually exclusive to another company.

Never thought that I would see it from Buck.:thumbdn:
 
Just took a look at it... you're quite right. It certainly does look like a Strider. I wonder if it's as tough?
 
This is reduced price option for someone who can not afford one of our strider collaborations (which we have been doing for years) or an original strider knife from Mick and Duane.

The quality is relative to what it is and what it costs. It is a good knife and worthy of the Buck name or we would not brand it with such.

It is not comparable quality wise to an original Strider knife and was not meant to be.

It does resemble a basic strider shape but there are numerous changes made to differentiate the knife.

For us to make it too similiar hurts our sales of the more expensive knives so we would be foolish to do that.

We have also been careful not to associate Strider with any of our imported tactical line as they have a very strong negative feelings about imports.

Our goal was to create price options that gave people choices in buying a Buck knife that carries a lifetime guarantee.
 
Thank you for the response Mr. Buck. As a current Buck knives customer, I appreciate the response.

I love the Strider collaborations, and some of the other collaborations that you do.
 
FWIW, I wasn't trying to attack Buck's low-end offerings. As CJ so eloquently explained, they have their market and the high-end products have theirs.
 
I was able to look at a large picture of it last night. I was impressed. It does resemble a Strider, but it also has a unique look all it's own. And, for the money, it seems a faily good choice for an every-day carry knife. Plus, as everyone will surely say... "It's a Buck."
 
CJ Buck said:
It does resemble a basic strider shape but there are numerous changes made to differentiate the knife.
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Would one of those numerous changes be the addition of stripes to the blade? It seems to me that if Buck Knives wanted to differentiate the knife from a Strider collaboration, the design would surely not have included the striping on the blade.
 
If that knife is not made to fool people into thinking it is a Strider, I would hate to see a knife that Buck would make with the intent of looking like a Strider...

When I first saw the pic I for one thought that is must be a new collaboration between Buck and Strider. I would have lost money if I had to place a bet on it. I guess it is because I though that Buck would have had enough ethics not to make something somthing like this.

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Often I see posts were people complain that one company copied another and a lot of the times I just don't see it. This includes some examples dealing with Striders and other companies, but this knife is a bit to close for me to accept.
 
Well, I was taken aback when the Buck Tarani Folder first came to the scene. Took one look at the liner lock and dropped it like a hot rock. Where was that good old fashion American rock solid folder I had come to depend on from Buck Knives? Well, there and then I decided that it wasn't for me; and on hind sight, I was perhaps expecting way to much for an affordable Strider type folder. For its price range I felt it wiser to look elsewhere, which I did of course. Today, I can say that much has changed about American made knives. I can take a low end dirt cheap Chinese copy and find better value and workmanship in them. Does this make me happy? For the time being it would, well untill it goes bust - that is. But deep down it hurts to know that things have changed for good. There is a price to be paid for cheaper goods and its closer to home that you think. BTW, I haven't anything personal against Buck Knives, so I might as well admit that I find the Ghost Rider a really pretty blade, even if it has its roots elsewhere - its Americal soul still shines.
 
For Buck to make a knife resembling a Strider, (and it does, despite these "numerous changes") especially when the company has a collaborative partnership with Strider, stinks in my opinion. A couple of cosmetic changes would probably make a whole lot of diference, most notably, the abscence of stripes.

To be honest, i think it reveals either a serious lack of thought, or a serious lack of morals.
 
oldnbusted said:
For Buck to make a knife resembling a Strider, (and it does, despite these "numerous changes") especially when the company has a collaborative partnership with Strider, stinks in my opinion. A couple of cosmetic changes would probably make a whole lot of diference, most notably, the abscence of stripes. To be honest, i think it reveals either a serious lack of thought, or a serious lack of morals.
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Yes, I am going to have to agree with oldnbusted here. There is a collaborative arrangement between Buck and Strider, but specifically not for this low end knife which definately has some Strider appearance features at first glance. I know many say its the stripes, but most telling for me is the shape of the butt of the handle. In any case, its a cheap knife that seems to have a Strider hint and it will be perceived as such by many of those who buy it. I think its just a bad taste decision.
 
jhillas said:
Yes, I am going to have to agree with oldnbusted here. There is a collaborative arrangement between Buck and Strider, but specifically not for this low end knife which definitely has some Strider appearance features at first glance. I know many say its the stripes, but most telling for me is the shape of the butt of the handle. In any case, its a cheap knife that seems to have a Strider hint and it will be perceived as such by many of those who buy it. I think its just a bad taste decision.
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I'm going to have to agree with jhillas, oldnbusted and others who note, and rightly so, in my opinion, that this one is just too Strider-ish for it to NOT be a collaboration.

Personally, I'd like to see more Buck/Strider collaborations in the future, and would like to hear that "the air has been cleared" over this misstep.
 
I'm old and cranky and if it's chinese made i don't care what it says on the blade it's not buck. I have no problem with making an entry level knife and i'm sure there's a market for it but i just hate to see "made in china" on an american companies product.later,ahgar
 
It was a sad day when Buck decided to market a chinese product. I do understand the advantages of tax breaks avalable to companies who trade with china but none the less it is sad. I recently was considering buying a Buck Hilo 179 and had to ask the great people here on blade forums if it was a china or USA product. Once I found out it was china made the thoght of buying one vanished. I do find it cosiderably unfair for Buck to keep it a secret on there web site as to where each knife is made. Even if you purchase an American made Buck quite oten you will get a overseas made sheath but what can you do! I would be a liar if I said I only buy American products due to the fact many of our products are not made here any more. But when I do have a choice even if the product has a higher price tag I will always by American!

Anyone know what the 38th parallel is!

PS Build a wall on our sothern border!
 
I think that since Buck makes knives in collaboration with Strider they know what would and would not be appropriate. I think many of us are way to quick to jump on the "ripping off other peoples designs" and "made in china" bandwagon.
I can't remember the last time I wished I had fewer choices in knives. Variety is the spice of life. If I'm turned off by a knife for any number of reasons I don't buy it. The point is is that money talks and that is why there are Patents,Trademarks,and Copyrights. I would think if a company or someone is really getting "ripped" off there would be a lawsuit.
I got a chance to speak with CJ Buck at A.G. Russells open house a few years ago and he was an awesome person. He gave me a Buck Lite and engraved his signature on the blade. And listened politely to my ideas for an updated Buckmaster. If Buck produces it I am sure they are taking the high road and will stand behind it 100% whether it is made in china, the U.S.A or wherever.
These kinds of knives give a guy who can't afford to spend $100 or more on a knife the chance to enjoy a knife with unique styling and performance.
 
if they ripped off a Strider design then there would be an issue. Strider put no effort into making this knife, so their name doesn't belong on it. And since when does every Strider made knife have stripes? Better yet, how many Buck Striders have stripes? How many kife designs that have nothing to do with Strider have stripes?
 
Well, seeing as the Strider-Buck collaboration is now over, i guess soon Buck will have to get a new collaborator to rip off.

Argue about the legalities all you like, but if you're honest with yourself, the host rider was made to look like a Strider, serious lack of morals, thats just the way big klnife companies seem to be going, still, theres always spyderco.
 
Not to be a conspiracy freak, but take a look at the name of it:

"Ghost Rider" or "Ghost Rider" or "Gho Strider" or (phonetically) "Go Strider"

Have I been on-line too long or is this too much of a coincidence?
 
Blue Sky said:
Not to be a conspiracy freak, but take a look at the name of it:

"Ghost Rider" or "Ghost Rider" or "Gho Strider" or (phonetically) "Go Strider"

Have I been on-line too long or is this too much of a coincidence?
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mmmmmm I would agree with you does seem too coincidental
 
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