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Buck recluse 110

Azis

Azis

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Buck recluse 110

There are a few versions and colors on the limited Buck 110.

Who makes them?
 
Aziz, I am assuming you are refering to the Buck 110 with the Brown Recluse spider engraved on the scales and with spider web engraved on the bolsters.
The bolsters are brass on mine but I did see one where the bolsters were Nickel, advertised as 1 of only 50 made. Mine supposedly is 1 of only a 100.
I just purchased a white peal one on Ebay. Unfortunately the bidding got a bit fierce and I am afraid I may have spent more than I should have. Also just recently I saw a green pearl version on Ebay. I was under the impression that these were Limited Editions offered by Buck directly to the public at retail at some point.
 
I have the white, black, gold, blue pearl and some of the recluse models they don't have any other name so it looks like they are Buck. If so that should be verified.
I have several Prater rmodels and others however it is stated they do the modifications. I had thought these models like the deer, spiders, skulls etc were limited runs by Buck. I would like to confirm that.
I would agree the prices are getting higher all the time on these because people get caught in the bidding, but most of them are 1 of 1000 and it will be a long time before that many are sold.
 
Maybe Joe Houser will step in here and set us all straight.. I believe they are in fact genuine Buck products but the mods are done by someone else..
 
I would sure appreciate clarification. I just started collecting a couple of months ago and have seen several so-called "Limited Editions" that have different scale designs, the running deer, the recluse, the scorpions, the Basketweave, the timber rattler, and the red flames with skull. Are these truly limited editions from Buck for the public at large or are these special orders to Buck from knife dealers wanting something exclusive that only the dealer can get and then resell to the public via ebay. In each instance the knife that I purchased has a "number" engraved in the bolster to indicate which one of the so-called limited run of 100, 500, etc. Are we being duped?
I think I am gonna hold on to my cash until I get some accurate understanding of where these limited edition Bucks are coming from.
 
HOE3 said:
I would sure appreciate clarification. I just started collecting a couple of months ago and have seen several so-called "Limited Editions" that have different scale designs, the running deer, the recluse, the scorpions, the Basketweave, the timber rattler, and the red flames with skull. Are these truly limited editions from Buck for the public at large or are these special orders to Buck from knife dealers wanting something exclusive that only the dealer can get and then resell to the public via ebay. In each instance the knife that I purchased has a "number" engraved in the bolster to indicate which one of the so-called limited run of 100, 500, etc. Are we being duped?
I think I am gonna hold on to my cash until I get some accurate understanding of where these limited edition Bucks are coming from.
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Those Bucks you've mentioned are regular production knives that have been modified after leaving Buck. Bucks Limited Edition knives will come in a box marked "Limited Edition" along with paperwork stating "Certificate of Authenticity" which will contain a breif description, model #, materials used, and if serialized, how many units were produced.
Joe Houser usually produces a listing of all Limited Editions from Buck in a Buck Collectors Club Newsletter once a year.
The sticker with the bar code on the end of your box should contain enough information for someone at Buck to help you determine if yours is a Buck produced Limited Edition. Maybe someone with more knowledge will chime in and help you guys with additional information.
 
Yes, some of what you see on the online auctions are knives that were purchased from Buck and modified by someone else. I cant give you a list of the ones that are not from Buck because I don't keep track of all those projects. I really don't have a method to. Its hard enough keeping track of the specials that Buck did and I live hear! :rolleyes:
What a lot of guys do, is when they see an interesting auction, they send me an email and I can check to see if it is a project that we did.
By the way, most of the projects not done at Buck, no longer have a Buck warranty. We have no handy way of duplicating their work or even of verifying their quality. Thats not to say that they are not of good quality, we just dont know how they were made, materials used, ect.
Hope this helps.
 
Joe, again, I appreciate your time to respond. I took the suggestion and went back to one of my online Sellers where I have purchased several "limited editions, numbered 1 thru XXX". He told me these are SFO knives ordered specifically by a Distributor who in turn sells them to their Dealers. The dealers then sell to the public thru their retail outlet or eBay outlet. I got the impression that all work is done by Buck in completing the knife built to order for the Distributor. I did not get the impression that these were knives, either skeletons or finished standard Buck knives, that are being modified after leaving the Buck factory. It makes sense to me that maybe Buck builds knives "to order" when some minimum quantity is being met by the order size. I also now realize that some of my 110s have COAs from Buck whereas on these other "limited editions" I do NOT have COAs. I have for example a white pearl "recluse" spider engraved beauty that is supposedly #088 of 100 made. The 088 is engraved in teeny tiny numbers on the blade.
So does this guarantee me that this knife is indeed the ONLY 088 out there? I tend to not think so anymore but maybe I just a jaded skeptic. The most important thing I think in your response is regarding the warranty on the knife. Every one of these so-called "limited editions" that I have purchased all came with the standard warranty paper insert in the Buck box and with a sheath. Since there is no serial number on the knives to begin with, how would I know if it has a warranty or not? Looking at the Buck box I do see a Bar code on the Buck sticker but across it is another sticker where the Dealer has identified the knife by name, ie recluse; timber rattler, etc. Is the bar code the way the knife is serialized for warranty purposes? I am waiting to hear back from the Dealer as to what a "SFO" knife means. Maybe that is Buck lingo for some order quantity or something like that?

thanks again to you Joe and all the folks who have responded on this thread!
 
Most of these are display types of 110s with the fancy colors and all I don’t see many people using them everyday. In that respect no warranty may not mean much, however if it fails from any use or if it is dropped and the handle cracks you are just out of luck.
So from there what is that knife worth now?

I have a lot of Michael prater modified but I know that and have no problem with it. I like his work and I don’t carry these so to me it’s fine. The ones on eBay I don’t know or didn’t know until this thread anything about them. Now I do, I still like them but won’t over pay for them knowing what I know now.

One thing I think this points out is that if Buck were to start doing this they could sell a lot of knives.
 
Aziz, I agree with your comments. I purchase these knives for their intrinsic beauty and not for work or EDC knives. They are strictly to satisfy my craving for collecting different pieces. I buy what I like. With regard to the warranty question, again, since these knives wont be used for any purpose I shouldn't run into any issue needing warranty work. I really was just looking for some clarification as to Buck's position on these knives since they are supposedly manufactured and sold by Buck to the Distributors. I would think Buck would honor warranty on everything but the scales perhaps but then again I dont know all what is involved in re-scaling the knife and maybe they monkey around with the "inner workings" of the knife and for that reason Buck cant stand behind the modifications BUT if Buck IS making these knives "to order" for these Distributors it seems to me that a Buck warranty would still apply. Not a real big deal to me, more of just a opinion. My thoughts going forward about these so-called "limited editions" is that I will continue to buy what I see and like but I will remind myself that these knives my NOT be all that "limited" and perhaps never attain the status of a "real collectable" such as the limited editions manufactured and sold DIRECTLY by Buck. Another way of saying this is the old familiar "Buyer Beware!" adage.
I am embarassed to tell anyone what I paid for my "limited edition" white pearl "recluse" that I now see flooding eBay. I think these eBay dealers are legitimate business people who see a market (that Buck is missing maybe?) and are filling it with what they are selling. I guess I have become a somewhat more "educated" buyer like yourself.

Harry
 
HOE3 said:
I would think Buck would honor warranty on everything but the scales...if Buck IS making these knives "to order" for these Distributors it seems to me that a Buck warranty would still apply...
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Buck can't (& won't) warranty other people's work. There is no way to tell what all these "other people" have done. Or if it was done correctly.

This doesn't mean the "other people" don't do good work. It's just not Buck's work. Why should Buck warranty something someone else did???

I imagine the legal department gets involved, too. :rolleyes:
 
Chickentrax, understand completely where you are coming from. The Dealer I originally spoke with about this called me today to tell me these knives are ordered specifically by his Distributor from Buck and that the knives in question are indeed manufactured by Buck to meet the Distributor's specifications. He further qualified this by telling me that these knives are ONLY available from that Distributor's Dealers and that Buck would/will stand behind their (Buck's) warranty. Maybe Joe Houser will comment on this.
 
HOE3 said:
...the knives in question are indeed manufactured by Buck to meet the Distributor's specifications...
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I got it now. ;) I thought you meant that the knives were ordered in bulk from Buck and modified by the distributor. That happens, too, and Joe has commented on *that* situation.
 
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