Buck Sheath Material

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nolan raborn

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While in Arkansas on vacation a couple of weeks ago I bought a new automatic Buck 110. My question is this: What is the material that the new Buck sheaths are made of? Looks like some kind of synthetic or manmade material. Not like real leather. Can someone give me an idea what it is? When I buy one that I intend to carry any I make a leather sheath for it. I don't like the new sheaths.

Nolan
 
Factory 110 sheaths are either leather or cordura nylon.

The automatic 110's are modified on the aftermarket so maybe the sheath is aftermarket (not made by Buck) as well?

You can buy a leather 110 sheath from the Buck website.
 
Nolan is a sheath maker. He has posted some of his fine looking work here in the past for his fixed blades and folders.

He knows leather, and is just curious about the new sheaths.

Nolan,,I picked up a 154CPM out at Katy a few weeks back and just pulled out the sheath. I see what you mean. It smells like leather, but when you drag a fingernail down it, it doesn't quite act like leather. And it is Mexico.

Also dug out a new AG110 and the sheath is the same. Not the roughout on inside of the flap like we are used to.

They smell like leather, but must be some new process or something different, because they dont scratch like leather.

FWIW here,,,I am looking at the brown sheaths, like comes with an AG 110. I just tried scratching a fingernail all the way down the front of one and didn't leave a leather type scratch.

I wonder if they are "treated" differently with something to keep them from scratching up.
 
Packrat, I am almost sure it is not leather as we know it. To me it looks to leather as particle board looks to wood. I was hoping Joe from Buck would see this post and join in.
The stitching is very light, very thin thread. I would not expect it to last long if worn in the field.

Is it true that automatic Bucks are not made by Buck? The box has a warning about what they call assisted opening knives that was printed when the box was printed and it is a Buck box. Just wondering.

Good to hear from you Pack R. You take it easy.

Nolan
 
nolan raborn said:
Packrat, I am almost sure it is not leather as we know it. To me it looks to leather as particle board looks to wood. I was hoping Joe from Buck would see this post and join in.
The stitching is very light, very thin thread. I would not expect it to last long if worn in the field.

Is it true that automatic Bucks are not made by Buck? The box has a warning about what they call assisted opening knives that was printed when the box was printed and it is a Buck box. Just wondering.

Good to hear from you Pack R. You take it easy.

Nolan
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Yes, Buck doesn't make any of the 110 automatics, and won't warranty them. There are a gew different outfits that modify them. I have a few, one is full auto in that it can only be deployed by the button. Other one is either/or. Can be opened manually. They seem well made but I have then for collectables and not users by any means.

Buck has some other assisted openers, but not fully auto. Look at the 298GY Sirus on Bucks web site.
 
Pack Rat said:
.... It smells like leather, but when you drag a fingernail down it, it doesn't quite act like leather. And it is Mexico.

Also dug out a new AG110 and the sheath is the same. Not the roughout on inside of the flap like we are used to.

They smell like leather, but must be some new process or something different, because they dont scratch like leather.
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Hi Larry, et al...

On the new sheath I received (another recent thread), I am guessing it is "bonded leather".

Definition:
The following are not 'true' leathers, but contain leather material.

Bonded Leather , or "Reconstituted Leather", is not really a true leather but a man-made material composed of 90% to 100% leather fibers (often scrap from leather tanneries or leather workshops) bonded together with latex binders to create a look and feel similar to that of genuine leather at a fraction of the cost. Bonded leather is not as durable as other leathers, and is recommended for use only if the product will be used infrequently. One example of bonded leather use is in Bible covers.

http://www.answers.com/topic/leather

LOL..I just read that part about "used infrequently" and then they reference the Bible. Guess they were writing about me.

Larry...the last time I dragged my fingernail down the back in Mexico she got really ticked off. Kind of ruined the moment. I asked for my money back...but re-thought that demand when her "manager" showed up. :eek:
 
Great description Goose!!! On that curved bottom you just received. Is the inside of the flap rough, like in a roughout work boot, or smooth, like in the bible?

stay out of mehico...:eek:
 
Pack Rat said:
Great description Goose!!! On that curved bottom you just received. Is the inside of the flap rough, like in a roughout work boot, or smooth, like in the bible?

stay out of mehico...:eek:
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Hola Rata del Paquete...

The inside is rough.

Adios...
 
Thanks very much Pack Rat and Buckaholic! That is what I thought but wanted to hear it from someone else. I would just as well that they sent my knife with no sheath at all. I would never use one of those things and always before carrying the knife I will make my own sheath. That way I have top grade leather and it is made the way I want it made. Again, thanks a lot!

Nolan
 
nolan raborn said:
Thanks very much Pack Rat and Buckaholic! That is what I thought but wanted to hear it from someone else. I would just as well that they sent my knife with no sheath at all. I would never use one of those things and always before carrying the knife I will make my own sheath. That way I have top grade leather and it is made the way I want it made. Again, thanks a lot!

Nolan
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No problem Nolan. Personally, the only stock Buck sheath I use is the nylon horizontal. Primarily cause that is my preference in carry (horizontal).

The one thing that stumps me about your original post is the use of "vacation" and "Arkansas" in the same sentence ;)
 
Nolan, Buck does not ship any knives with fake leather sheaths. I have no idea why the individual doing the conversions would put the knife in a cheap synthetic sheath (since it would ADD to his costs), but all the ones in the warehouse and factory store are real genuine leather. As it has been noted earlier in this thread, Buck does not currently produce any automatic knives, and the conversion voids the warranty. I have handled a few of these and they're cool, but if the sheath seems fake, it probably isn't a standard Buck sheath. - Jim
 
jimmer_5 said:
I have no idea why the individual...would put the knife in a cheap synthetic sheath (since it would ADD to his costs)...
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jimmer - I won't quote names, but there are eBay sellers who sell nothing but brand new OEM leather Buck sheaths... :(
 
I will ask if our supplier is using bonded leather now. That would be news to me. We have been using this same company for many many years, located in Kansas. It sounds like you know a lot about leather so your comments have me intrigued.
 
nolan raborn said:
I would never use one of those things and always before carrying the knife I will make my own sheath. That way I have top grade leather and it is made the way I want it made. Again, thanks a lot!

Nolan
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Nolan,
I agree with you whole heartedly. I've been ordering my knives with the nylon sheaths for quite some time now. They're good for storing the knives in. I've ordered several custom top grade leather sheaths that I use for carry.
Mike
 
HonkerRusty said:
Goose: You mentioned a horizonal nylon sheath. Where did you get them?
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Ditto. I would like to know as well.

I noticed a difference between a 110 black sheath I just got (Mexican variety) and an earlier (2006) 110 sheath. The earlier sheath smells like leather and the Mexican variation does not. The Mexican sheath seems far less supple and has a significant 'chemical' smell to it. I can't imagine how a 110 with fatter scales, would ever fit into the Mexican sheath.
 
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