Buck Slipjoints

I have a bunch of Buck slipjoints, none of them are USA made. The USA Buck slipjoints don't really appeal to me. There is a greater variety of patterns and handle materials in the Chinese made Buck slippies. Quality is still top notch.

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(I also have a wood grain Canoe and red bone Muskrat not shown in the photo.)
 
Hey Mn, I crawfished back to USA.

But let me state facts as they pretain to me. I own three CBs all acquired by those moments when we get a knife from someone at holiday or were just weak in the head moment.

But, every CB "I" have handled has had good fit and finish. I have heard on the Buck forum of some defects, but of the people who will make a comment they usually make one of a positive nature, otherwise the crappy knife goes in the tackle box to fight another rusty day.

I will stand in the shadow of the flag on the high hill, and state in all honesty "If someone needs a decent knife for EDC and can't afford lots of the ones we talk about here then they can get and carry a CB or even others, till Buck brings "Wally's price point" production home and I will not be critial of them." We talk about RRs and others here all the time I don't see much difference. Whether Canal, Case or Buck we "should" support USA companies when we can personally afford to. (Can you hear America the Beautiful in the background)

I would listen jpvjr as he is there....

No man knows the day, but I will see that day with a Buck or other company with USA stamped on the tang in my pocket or on my belt. If I was in the sandbox I would want that..............300
 
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Older, USA made Buck large (4 1/8 inch) Stockman pattern:

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I have some old buck advertising poster where that knife is called the 307 wrangler. I bought one in the early 80ties. Its realy a tank of a slipjoint Thick blades, I have never seen small blades as the spay and the sheepfoot that thick in another knife. I belive the pivotpins is stainless steel and all of the construktion of that knife talks the language of "strong" As I remember it the steel is 440 c.

Bosse
 
Be very careful about buying a knife for somebody that you think needs one. Size AND style are extremely personal, and what you may think is the greatest thing since flint, may be a albatross to another. If he's using a small Case now, that may be what his choice is in knives. Beware; Case people tend to be a little fanatical in their choice. Kind of like the Ford vs Chevy thing.

Just put of curiosity, what Case is he carrying? That could be a clue to his prefference.

A 2 5/8" pen knife. He's funny, claiming everyone and their aunt "knows" carbon steel is best, he doesn't care 1 way or the other. He said his (SS)does what he wants so it's good enough. It's a utility model with a plain jigged plastic handle.
 
I did up 3 goats, 2 dozen carp (big), and 1 donkey so far. I've used my peanut for all but the 1 goat. That 1 I did up with my Buck 303. In all honesty, I'd say the Buck is a better size, but I'm odd, I came here with a peanut & I'm sticking with it til i get back. Then it'll be my church knife (or maybe I'll retire it). I DON'T like the Case stockmen, I like the layout of the Bucks better. I've said this numerous times and my CSM wonders why I carry a Case for it but here it goes: Buck's are the beaters that can't be beat. If I was told I was going to be a part time butcher for parties here, I'd order a 303. I'd also order (to expirement of course) a 301. I've seen a 309, (iffy).
What's a 307?

Why don't you like the Case stockman? Other than layout. That's alot of meat cutting, the First Nations don't even do as much with a pocketknife. The 307 is a BIG 4 1/4" stockman. Is it only size, or blade selection that makes the 303 better?
 
I know a guy who is in Iraq ... he said he field dressed a goat with his knife (a very small Case).
I'd like to get him a new knife, and was wondering which size should I get him?
Anyone who is a real traditionalist have ideas? The knife he's using is too nice (even if it is a Case), to have anything happen to it.

Since, as you later posted, he's carrying a 2 5/8" pen knife now, I'd opt to get him a Buck 305 Lancer or 309 Companion. It'd be right up his alley. (Don't be put off by the prices listed on the Buck site, btw. You can get 'em a lot cheaper.)
 
Since, as you later posted, he's carrying a 2 5/8" pen knife now, I'd opt to get him a Buck 305 Lancer or 309 Companion. It'd be right up his alley. (Don't be put off by the prices listed on the Buck site, btw. You can get 'em a lot cheaper.)

I don't know, if jpvjr says a 303, or 301 I'd get 1 of those. He grew up Using knives. Another option is to get a small stockman, they're the same 2 5/8" but with a 3rd blade. They also come as SS utility models. I'd say go no more than 3 1/4" though, the 301 might be too big for his liking.
 
We don't have any Case dealers in ON?! Seriously. I spent an hour looking, finally gave up on that & called Case (in Penna.) They don't have any authorized dealers here. They have 1 in BC. I narrowed my choice down to a Buck 303, or a Case 3318. Does anyone own each, and what's your opinion +'s/-'s of each?
 
I would support either choice. I got into Bucks back when (will soon have to say - a long time ago) Case was several dollars more than Buck in cost. I was a late 60's teenager who studied Outdoor Life,Sports Afield and FurFishandGame a hundred times more than school books. Bucks ads pushed lifetime warranty and that is what the local, pre Wally, hardware store carried. It/they were "my" thing from then on. I have received gifts of small Cases, two brand new ones lay in the EDC box with the Bucks. They hardly ever get to travel anywhere. My grandpa carried a yellow case his entire life and was well satisified. Always a carbon blade. I have handled my two only a little.

I have had three bucks go back to the factory, two before they knew I was 300Bucks, and all were repaired,cleaned and sharpened to my satisfaction. I have heard in this venue that Case has treated others well also.

Here's the bottom line, you want a choice of a varied handle material of some nice shade go with Case , if you want a one color fits all, but tuff, go with the Buck.

Now that I think about it that is probably why I like them they ain't pretty but you can count on it going the distance, same as what I think I am.....

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We don't have any Case dealers in ON?! Seriously. I spent an hour looking, finally gave up on that & called Case (in Penna.) They don't have any authorized dealers here. They have 1 in BC. I narrowed my choice down to a Buck 303, or a Case 3318. Does anyone own each, and what's your opinion +'s/-'s of each?

The Buck is thicker with three springs
The blades are thicker with a full spine and then hollow grind
So fine slicing is harder
The steel is good

The Case has a Turkish clip blade, which is very thin at the end.
the blades are also hollow ground but much thinner
A more pleasant knife

If I was to choose.
The Case is larger and more comfortable, and you have a choice of scales, yellow delrin and bone and availiable in carbon

But if you were asking about a 301 @ 4".......then no question
 
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Why don't you like the Case stockman? Other than layout. That's alot of meat cutting, the First Nations don't even do as much with a pocketknife. The 307 is a BIG 4 1/4" stockman. Is it only size, or blade selection that makes the 303 better?

It just feels better in hand. I had a 3318CV but gave it to my dad (who loves it--much better than a Soddy Jr.).
Where I grew up, the only knife available without a special order was a Soddy Jr in CV. My 1st experience with Buck was in NE. I helped butcher 2 hogs there, 1 with my Soddy, 1 with my then new Buck & that did it for me. I also read somewhere that Buck has (and honors) a forever warranty. They said they had a 20+ year old knife with a broke handle. Sent it in got the scale replaced and the blades resharpened FREE.
If he has a 2 5/8" penknife I'd say get him a Buck, 309, or 301. He might like the extra size.
 
Thanks to jpvjr I got my friend a Buck 309, and a 301. He got a military discount, all I had to do was pay the shipping.
 
Stone him! :mad:

;) Seriously, though, cough up the extra $10 and get him an American-made Buck 303 or 301. Hell, I'll even chip in $10 to help cover the costs.

Absolutely. Read on:


No way can China compete with U.S.A. Cutlery Quality. Also, who wants to collect China knives? Sellers are not honest up front with the Made in China cutlery business. Most knives say Stainless Steel, that's all! China knives are made with re-cycled 440A and 440B stainless steel. All U.S.A. knives are made from New 440C or 440HC steel. Do you notice today all gas barbecues are stainless steel, yeah cheap 440A and 440B stainless steel from China even from Weber!
Most commonly you see just 440 Stainless Steel. 440C was the first generally accepted knife makers' stainless and remains quite popular, particularly since the sub-zero process was developed to add toughness. 440C produces an excellent, serviceable and durable knife, even for the new knife maker. Anneals at very low temperature. Please note that 440A and 440B are similar alloys, often confused with 440C, but not worth a damn for knife making use. Commercial China made knife companies mark blades 440. That means it's 440A and 440B, one of the garbage versions, giving the real stuff a bad name.
420HC Surgical Stainless, Other High Carbon Steel or Tool Steel is whats wanted in America. These steels have the hardness for a Great America. Many American companies have gone to China for GARBAGE KNIVES. The dealers won't even include in their auctions "MADE IN CHINA", Why? Because it's PURE JUNK and you won't buy it. In China a knife can be made for a half a buck or less, (a bowl of rice?) China is a communist regime , heads up, we don't know what's going on there?
Buck Knives still has almost all it's Cutlery US made (Don't buy the Buck folding pocket knives with wood scales or red jigged bone, they are all Made In China). Case, Queen, Moore Maker is 100% USA. Other companies have closed their doors or went to China, SHRADE, OLD TIMER, UNCLE HENRY, CAMILUS, COLONIAL etc.
Shipment of scrap steel from New York's collapsed World Trade Center "Ground Zero" went to Shanghai according to media reports. The steel was bought by Shanghai Baosteel Group Corp., and several other domestic mills, which are always eager to buy scrap metal. Scrap metal contains different steels and other metals and impurities. Scrap has to be processed in different ways to make the desirable steels.
Baosteel Group, the nation's largest steel firm, had purchased 50,000 tons of the scrap steel from "Ground Zero," the ruins of the September 11 terrorist attack, at no more than US$120 each TON, according to Beijing Youth Daily. Then they sell it back to westerners for 1000% profit.

China, the world's largest steel maker in terms of output, relies heavily on imports of scrap for its steel production. Example, China imported 5.1 million tons of scrap in 2000.
Don't buy it, ask the Seller "Where is it Made", when they answer China, say "Not Interested, I'm an American"!
 
Politics aside (as well they should be on here), I think a Buck is a Buck. My favorite EDC at the moment is a Buck Canoe, imported. One complaint I have had with Bucks was that the blades were a bit chunky. I like my blades thin, that way they will cut better. Buck has legendary edge retention, but the thick spines really bothered me on their stockman. As sharp as they were ( and they were really really sharp), they just didn't cut as well as my Case knives. However, I don't have that issue with the Canoe. The main blade is wide enough that by the time you get to the cutting edge, it is nice and thin. The pen blade I use for all my tougher chores. And of course, being a Buck, it is built like a tank.
Gotta Love a Buck.
 
Well Michael (my friend) got his knives. He loves the 309, & has to find a T-Rex for the 301.:rolleyes:
 
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