Buck Strider Military Folder ?????

[mainewoodsman]

I bought the Lansky Diamond rat tail... there are instructions included that do a better job explain'n it than me

Good call on the out-law department... may be hard on the bucks as well - LMAO

 

[buckman#10]

LOL -- with the diamond taper, I learned you need to sharpen the knife by drawing the edge up the taper, and not like you are cutting into the taper. Does that make sense?

sure now you tell me once my serrations are gone
seriously i used a buck diamond taper and before i realized it the serrations were buggered and it was ats-34 steel but luckily it wasnt a buck

i am going to try to find round sharpening rods the same size as the serrations on my knife (my serrations are 2 sizes) that i can use with the edge-pro :thumbup:

 

[Messersmith]

Hey Messy...
Guessing that you like the 889

Gooser, yes I'm loving my 889 so far. :thumbup:

Here are pics of the 882 and 889 for comparison. The 889 has FRN handles with 420HC and the 882 has G10 with ATS-34.

I prefer the G10 as it is not as radically checkered as the FRN.
Doesn't screw up the top of your hands when you have it in the front pants pocket and go digging for Sambo's Free Coffee tokens.

Also, prefer the torx heads for field stripping on the 882 as compared to rivets on the 889.

Thanks for the comparison pics. It would be nice if Buck would do torx screws on the 889. I think it would make for a better appearance as well as give you the ability to field strip. Would changing to torx screws increase the cost that much? How do you like the rough area on the upper part of the blade on your 882? It looks like it might trap dirt or little pieces of spam?

Liner lock thickness on the 882 and two 889 versions are both 1/16" with the 881 liner being just under 3/32".
Using Chinese math, that is 2/32" Vs. 3/32". Not much.

Doesn't seem like much of a difference but your pic tells the story. The liner on the 881 looks much more substantial even though it's only 1/32" thicker than the 882/889.

 

[mainewoodsman]

sure now you tell me once my serrations are gone
seriously i used a buck diamond taper and before i realized it the serrations were buggered and it was ats-34 steel but luckily it wasnt a buck

i am going to try to find round sharpening rods the same size as the serrations on my knife (my serrations are 2 sizes) that i can use with the edge-pro :thumbup:

You got to be real careful with those diamond tapers, they have the potential of removing a lot of metal... Usually, I only need to touch up the larger serrations, even then it only takes one or two light passes. May use another file I have for the small ones.

 

[jimmer_5]

I want to address the locking issue that has been brought up in this thread. The original 889 and 882 Buck Striders were built with a .040" thousands of an inch thick liner. These knives lock up fine under normal use, but they will sometimes fail the tap test when bashing the back of the knife on a hard surface or object. It should be noted that this is an unsafe practice with ANY folding knife, and should not be considered "normal use". However, the newer knives now come equipped with liners that are .050" thick - this was done because the thicker liners look nicer AND to make the knife lock up stronger. Personally, I prefer the way the knife operates with the thinner liners, but I probably don't represent the majority.

Also, I am among those that lament the fact that the ATS-34 blade comes only in partial serrations. I have several of these knives with non-serrated 420HC blades and they work great for me. Finally, like CJ said earlier in this thread, all Buck/Strider products are MADE IN THE USA. Blade magazine mistakenly printed a recent article (Beasts of the East) that claimed the 889 was made in China, but this is completely untrue. A small retraction was printed several months later.

Like CJ said, we always want to hear your opinions, positive or negative, so please, keep bringing 'em on! - Jim

 

[shari556]

my lock sucks, sent it back, waiting reply

 

[cool_hand_luke]

The original 889 and 882 Buck Striders were built with a .040" thousands of an inch thick liner. These knives lock up fine under normal use, but they will sometimes fail the tap test when bashing the back of the knife on a hard surface or object.

My 889 could just about be folded close like a slipjoint; the lock was very sloppy. I didn't have to bash the back of it on anything to get the lock to fail.

But, as I mentioned in my previous post it could be due to an older style 889. I've got a (hopefully) newer one on the way from NGK.

Andy

 

[Messersmith]

I want to address the locking issue that has been brought up in this thread. The original 889 and 882 Buck Striders were built with a .040" thousands of an inch thick liner.

Jimmer: Do you know when, approximately, the change was made to the thicker liner for the 889?

 

[jimmer_5]

Jimmer: Do you know when, approximately, the change was made to the thicker liner for the 889?

I'll have to get back to you on that one next week - most of the company took time off for the holiday, so I'm one of the few people here today. It was at least a year ago, because they were producing them with thicker liners when I got here in June of 2006.

 

[jimmer_5]

My 889 could just about be folded close like a slipjoint; the lock was very sloppy. I didn't have to bash the back of it on anything to get the lock to fail.

But, as I mentioned in my previous post it could be due to an older style 889. I've got a (hopefully) newer one on the way from NGK.

Andy

I'm sorry to hear that - if you've still got that one, send it back and we'll get it fixed for you. Something was obviously wrong with your knife! - Jim

 

[cool_hand_luke]

Hi Jim,

Actually I spent about an hour on the 4th of July looking for it. I have a new one inbound from NGK and want to do a side-by-side pictorial comparison to post in the buck forum.

Unfortunately I can't remember exactly where I put my sloppy 889. I think I threw it in one of my vehicles as a vehicle utility folder. But I recently sold one of my vehicles through private sale, and the 889 could have been in there -- I don't know. I was fairly disappointed in this knife when I got it, so I frankly didn't care what happened to it. It could be long gone for all I know.

There was a post on these buck forums where a member purchased one of the 889 (? or similar buck/strider model) collector's edition (wood handles). The poster described some similar things with the lock that I remembered about my 889. The poster sent theirs back to buck for repair and I beleive buck took care of the problem. At the time I thought 'maybe I should do the same.' But I never followed up.

I really hope the lock is solid on my inbound 889. I really like the looks of the 889, and was whole-heartedly disappointed with the lock when I received my first 889 knife. This thread, though, has renewed my interest in the 889.

Andy

P.S. Not sure if this is relevant, but in a previous post I mentioned I purchased my first 889 from NGK. This may not be accurate -- I was making many purchases from the knifecenter before I discovered NGK. So it is possible I purchased the 889 from knifecenter.

 

[Buckaholic]

Hi Jim,

Actually I spent about an hour on the 4th of July looking for it. I have a new one inbound from NGK and want to do a side-by-side pictorial comparison to post in the buck forum.

Unfortunately I can't remember exactly where I put my sloppy 889. I think I threw it in one of my vehicles as a vehicle utility folder. But I recently sold one of my vehicles through private sale, and the 889 could have been in there -- I don't know. I was fairly disappointed in this knife when I got it, so I frankly didn't care what happened to it. It could be long gone for all I know.

There was a post on these buck forums where a member purchased one of the 889 (? or similar buck/strider model) collector's edition (wood handles). The poster described some similar things with the lock that I remembered about my 889. The poster sent theirs back to buck for repair and I beleive buck took care of the problem. At the time I thought 'maybe I should do the same.' But I never followed up.

I really hope the lock is solid on my inbound 889. I really like the looks of the 889, and was whole-heartedly disappointed with the lock when I received my first 889 knife. This thread, though, has renewed my interest in the 889.

Andy

P.S. Not sure if this is relevant, but in a previous post I mentioned I purchased my first 889 from NGK. This may not be accurate -- I was making many purchases from the knifecenter before I discovered NGK. So it is possible I purchased the 889 from knifecenter.

Here are a few threads that may be what you were thinking about (?).
For the record, I am VERY happy with my small herd of Buck Striders.
(889SBMF, two 889LE, 881, 881, and 890)

Even the 889LE that came outta the box as a slipjoint until I tweaked it.
Hasn't failed once since.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4517251#post4517251

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4420716&postcount=75

 

[tirod3]

I will set you all at ease with the fact that none of the strider products were ever made outside of our factory. With that being said I have forwarded this thread and started an internal investigation to make sure we are not having liner problems with these models today. It may be a historical context you are thinking about with lock failures. We may have already fixed the problem and are still purging the system or are we may still be producing product not up to standard expected in this thread.

Either way I would like to know for sure

Thanks, that puts my erroneous speculation where it belongs. I appreciate the answer, and your recognition of the issue.

My Buck was purchased and promptly replaced over a year ago (great customer service, as expected.) I have since customized it and don't feel it's appropriate to ask for a replacement in it's altered condition.

Aside from that, I am looking at the Buck Mayo TNT as all recommendations I've read are good. I don't want to miss it while it's in production, I've waited years too long in the past with others.

 

[cool_hand_luke]

Hi Buckaholic,

Thanks for the links. The post you made and referenced here looks similar to the problems I had with the lock. I don't think my original 889 was quite as sloppy as what the picture shows in that post. But it was still sloppy, and I really didn't want to risk a nasty cut due to the liner lock failing.

I was hoping the big brown truck would make a delivery today from NGK with a new 889. No dice. Looks like I'm waiting until Monday.

Also it was not my intention to insinuate you were disappointed with your 889 (or any buck/strider for that matter) from my previous post. I apologize if I sent the wrong message with my last post.

Andy

 

[Spydiefan04]

I got an 880 a few years ago and a 889 recently (one with the state of Idaho on the tang) both of mine lock up like a bank vault.

I actually prefer a knife to NOT have torx screws. Since I never take a knife apart anyway (almost all cleaning can be done with compressed air, running water, oil, or a combo of the three) I see no problem with a pinned design and a screw for the blade pivot. However, I do like construction using standard screw heads (like Emerson and wish more companies would use that concept) that way I can adjust anything with the swiss army knife I am carrying instead of having to look for the proper torx driver.