Buck/Strider SBT

Thanks for the post.

Be wary of anyone selling pre-orders. Only Strider authorized dealers are carrying this product. If a dealer doesn't have them in stock ready to ship, then they are not yet an authorized dealer. I would hate to see any of you paying money to a dealer that will never be able to ship you a knife.

Josh
 
Wow, now I'm very curious. What exactly do "operators" of law enforcement do that is so specific that it won't apply do those in the civilian sector? That's kind of a general question, but could you think of some examples that calls for such a specifically designed knife?

And if the 882 was designed strictly for law enforcement, were the 881 and 880 models designed for any person(s) in particular?

Thanks.

randy
 
This may get a little long...


SBT Features

Overall shape

The origin of the SBT lies in its big brother the Strider SMF. The Strider SMF was designed for the United States Marine Corps' Special Operations Command. After testing, the SMF was chosen as the unit's issued folder. Its design allows for a very sturdy knife with a substantial cutting edge in a very slim package but still providing enough handle for retention during hard use

Handle

The shape of the handle allows for use by many different sized hands (male and female) in any grip configuration, right and left handed. It provides superior retention during extreme use. It also anchors securely into the palm during thrusts. The handle scales have an aggressive texture for retention in wet and gloved conditions. We used a polymer instead of G-10 or similar to reduce wear on uniforms. The belt clip is also reversible to allow strong side and weak side carry.

Blade

Drop point ATS-34 blade.
Partially serrated for cutting fibrous materials (seatbelts, ropes etc.) Our serration has .190 of straight edge from the choil to the first serration to prevent snagging or breaking of the serrations.
Large Blade stop pins that can be used as thumbstuds if preffered.
Hole in blade for one handed deployment.

Positive Deployment Texturing for safe two hand opening (copyright)

This patent pending design assists in two handed deployment of the folder. Two handed opening is a Law Enofrcement knife technique taught by Steve Tarani. Just as fast as one handed techniques and much more secure at contact range, this method gets your blade where it needs to be everytime, without fail. Steve Tarani is an internationally recognized law enforcement trainer and currenlty trains the Secret Service, DOE, FBI, USMC and a laundry list of other Federal, Local and State agencies. Steve is also consulted on by these same agencies for the development of use and carry policies for edged tools.

For more info on Steve
www.contactdefense.com or www.karambit.com


While these features are a plus for anyone, you may not need them all if you use your knife just to open the mail, etc. There is a tool for every job.

This knife was built to policy for Police officers. It is available to civilians, but it wasn't designed for them.

Let me know if you have any more questions

Josh
 
The 880 were designed for military application.
To provide a solid folding knife that was strong enough to dig and pry, that could fit into a pistol mag pouch.

The 881 came about for LEO's who didn't want such a large bladed folder. It has the same strengths as its big brother.

These knives are the kings of their weight classes for strength and toughness.

Josh
 
sounds reasonable enough for me.

Thanks for the very informative posts, mr. rummerfield.


take care.

randy
 
Originally posted by Midget
sounds reasonable enough for me.

Thanks for the very informative posts, mr. rummerfield.


take care.

randy
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Any time,

I appreciate everyones questions/ comments.

Have a great day!

Josh
 
I must step in here with some comments. I recently traded for an SBT. While I would agree that the MSRP and street pricing seems high on this knife (something just under $ 100 street price would be more in line I think), I believe many disappointed that this release wasn't an SnG clone (me too on that) have taken it out on the SBT.

This is a kick%$# knife. The frame is a riveted sandwich construction that comes right out of aerospace good practices. Yeah, I pooh poohed the rivets at first as well but the four rivets with washers and heavy duty spacers make this frame a solid torque box. Yeah, you can't take it apart (you can still remove the pivot, blade, and washers for maintenance) but that's an advantage in that it's much stronger than any screw construction. There are four rivets while my SnG only has three screws. This frame doesn't twist or bend. The liner while thin by Buck Strider AR comparison cannot go too far right and the tough frame will not allow it to disengage under tough use.

I can't afford to test either knife to distruction but some bending attempts in my hands tell me that the SBT is likely as strong as the SnG in prying.

The SBT blade is stronger than the SnG in that it carries the same thickness further to the tip. The blade design and tip are stronger than the thinner design of the SnG.

The ergonomics are virtually identical to SnG. The knife fits my small hands well and since Mr. Zudd notes it fits his big "mitts" that tells me the ergos are good all around.

What else? You can reverse the clip something you can't do with the SnG. Buck has thoughtfully plugged the reverse side screw holes with screws so you not only don't have some ugly empty screw holes, you have some spare clip screws.

The stippling effect on the top of the blade makes for easy two hand deployment with heavy gloves. The thumb hole is bigger than the one on the SnG also making for better cold weather access. The blade stops are larger than those on the SnG.

This knife is one of the sharpest knives out of the box I've ever had. The grind lines are perfect. I'd prefer plain edge but can understand the tactical need for a section of serrations. The new Buck serrations are a nice compromise between plain and serrated.

I believe this is a great tactical knife for LEO's although the price should be a bit lower so they can afford them better. I hope they get a good discount.

If you are lusting for an SnG and want to know if you like the ergos before spending $ 400, get this knife.

Faults? The SBT thong hole places the thong close to that razor sharp blade. I can't imagine this working long. Please note it's actually worse on the SnG.

In summary, while not an SnG, this is a good solid knife. Not as tough as the B-S AR but easier to carry. It has some improvements over the SnG that should be carried into the SnG line. A future version with the lighter style spear point blade of the SnG would be nice. This knife paves the way for a future SnG/SmF clone with a frame lock. I can hardly wait!

Another winner from Buck along with the AR and TnT clones.

Thank you Buck and Strider!
 
Roshi!
Great Review. I only held a friends SBT for like 20 minutes and I found many of the same points you did. I however did not even center in on the liner thickness

It feels so solid

Great knife I just can't wait until I get mine!!!!!


I really doubt highly that Mick, Duane, or Steve Tarani would put out a cheap untested knife, the SBT is knife of the year IMO.

Interesting comments on the prying and the comparisons to the SNG.

Thanks
 
Just received my new Buck Strider SBT,,,it was what I expected.
Good size, blade and handle,,,,,but I'll agree with all,,the
thin liner lock is just TOO THIN!!! Bottom line! It might be strong
enough,but come on,this knife NEEDED a liner at least twice as thick!!
The blade lock up is tight and no play, but the lock moves very easy
from side to side.
I put it in the $80 to $100 retail price range. Reminds me of a CRKT
knife, but I've owned stronger knives at less price (CRKT M18). Glad I didn't pay over $90 for it!
mick
 
Well, I have one on the way, and I intend to make it my hard use folder. When I need a fixed blade I'll go Busse, but this SBT is going to get all the jobs suitable for a folder that no other folder wants. I bet it will be fine. I'll post thoughts and whatnot when I can. As fas a handle material, rivets on the handle etc. I figure that the buck warantee will cover any breakage of that type and any other type really. I am going t USE it but not abuse it, and since buck is a standup company, I figure all will be well. I am curious to know what the 2 hand opening tech. is. I can't find anything about it on the web. More later:)
 
Enjoy the knife! Don't get hung up on the thin liners, the lock is plenty strong.

I believe the two hand opening is for gloved use, especially with winter wear.
 
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