Buck Vantage & Buck Vantage Force

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OK, am I correct in saying that the only difference between the two knives, other than steel and scale materials, is a slightly different blade shape?
 
The difference I found in the 2 is the handle shape and the blade material. They both have g10 scales and same over all lengths. The biggest difference is the blade material.
 
exiled13 said:
The difference I found in the 2 is the handle shape and the blade material. They both have g10 scales and same over all lengths. The biggest difference is the blade material.
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I must be missing something here. :confused: The Vantage and Vantage Force lines both use the same blade steels (420HC, 13C26 and S30V), except that they are coated on the Force models. The handles have different surface finishes (grooves, etc.) but are the same shape, in fact they are interchangeable. I took the scales from a Vantage Pro and put them on my Vantage Force Avid because I didn't like the aluminum ones. They are the same shape and fit perfectly.
 
The only difference between the Vantage and Vantage Force lines are the blade shape, the blade coating, pillar or backspacer construction, and the different handle materials (Dymondwood vs Aluminum for the Avids, Black G10 vs Blue/Black layered G10 for the Pros) and their surface finishes.

The different blade steels are from the Select, Avid, and Pro models in the Vantage and Vantage Force lines.
 
You didnt miss anything. I failed to explain what I meant. When I said different handle shape I meant the appearance (lines/grooves) of the scales. I wasnt aware you could get the vantage in the other steels. I bought a Force and a vantage and ended up giving them to my father and brother in law. The force had s30v steel and the plain vantage had 420. When I ordered the knives I didnt have a choice in blade material. I didnt mean to step out. I will research my answers before I blurt em in the future.
 
exiled13 said:
You didnt miss anything. I failed to explain what I meant. When I said different handle shape I meant the appearance (lines/grooves) of the scales. I wasnt aware you could get the vantage in the other steels. I bought a Force and a vantage and ended up giving them to my father and brother in law. The force had s30v steel and the plain vantage had 420. When I ordered the knives I didnt have a choice in blade material. I didnt mean to step out. I will research my answers before I blurt em in the future.
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After I thought about it, I figured that must have been what you meant about the handle shape. It's also understandable that you might not know of the different blade steels offered. Most of the shops and some online dealers that I've been only carry maybe one version and if you don't have access to a catalog you might never know that other options were available.
 
Brother, your killing me here. Lmao. How do I get my hands on a catalog? Thanks for the understanding and the resuring marks, but I'm upset at myself. The OP was looking for sound answers and turned out mine was not helpful at all. Which I will be mindful for now on. Now about that catalog......
 
exiled13 said:
Brother, your killing me here. Lmao. How do I get my hands on a catalog? Thanks for the understanding and the resuring marks, but I'm upset at myself. The OP was looking for sound answers and turned out mine was not helpful at all. Which I will be mindful for now on. Now about that catalog......
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Naww, don't be upset with yourself, you were just trying to help. :thumbup: I have a very old and close friend that has carried Buck's (110's or 112's) since he was young. Until I got him involved and started giving him knives, he had no idea that Buck made such a huge selection of different patterns. He always thought of Buck in the terms of the 110, 112 and the 119 which are what he was used to seeing at the hardware stores and had not a clue that they made anything else.

Your best bet is a membership in the Buck Collectors Club. They have a web site that has all the catalogs as PDF files which you can view online or download to your computer for viewing. There are also lots and lots of other info including all the past newsletters from the club. You get a membership package from the club that incudes a catalog and you get a new one every year. If you are interested in Buck's that's sure the way to go. Check it out, that alone is worth the price of admission.
 
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exiled13 said:
Brother, your killing me here. Lmao. How do I get my hands on a catalog? Thanks for the understanding and the resuring marks, but I'm upset at myself. The OP was looking for sound answers and turned out mine was not helpful at all. Which I will be mindful for now on. Now about that catalog......
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All 14 current Vantage models are on Buck website, yes?
Are there more variations NOT listed onsite?

http://www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=products.search&SearchTerms=vantage&x=0&y=0

- OS
 
OhShoot said:
All 14 current Vantage models are on Buck website, yes?
Are there more variations NOT listed onsite?

http://www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=products.search&SearchTerms=vantage&x=0&y=0

- OS
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That's true, I hadn't thought of their website.:o

I know of at least three variation's not listed there. One made for Bond Arms (an Avid) and only shows up in the special projects list, the Dymondwood Select that was available at Walmart, and the Cherry Dymondwood Avid that was listed on Buck's web specials page.

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The cherry Vantages are really nice. I'm still trying to score myself one of those beauties in good condition. Got excited when I saw one of these on a popular auction site and ended up the owner of a cherry Vantage with a chewed up blade and damaged scales. I may try sending it back to Buck to see what they can do about the knife, or I may just restore the blade to a working edge, polish out the surface delaminations in the Dymondwood, and just try and buy another.
 
Well I went tru all 15 vantages on the Buck website. I found what I've found everywhere else. The advanges has different blade material depending on the line. The selects has 420hc, the avid 13c26, force pro s30v, force avid 420hc&13c26, and paperstone has 420hc. There's a big price difference between the lines and blade material makes up a good bit of the price. I'm not sure cause I was focusing mainly on the blade material, the buckweb site is real heavy on my blackberry, but it seems for the most part most vantages can come w/ the g10 scales.
I dunno what's in the catalog.
 
exiled13 said:
Well I went tru all 15 vantages on the Buck website. I found what I've found everywhere else. The advanges has different blade material depending on the line. The selects has 420hc, the avid 13c26, force pro s30v, force avid 420hc&13c26, and paperstone has 420hc. There's a big price difference between the lines and blade material makes up a good bit of the price. I'm not sure cause I was focusing mainly on the blade material, the buckweb site is real heavy on my blackberry, but it seems for the most part most vantages can come w/ the g10 scales.
I dunno what's in the catalog.
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Here's the three pages from the 2011 catalog that show the Vantages. I only count 14 so I don't know what the 15th one you found on the website is.

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Aight my mistake. I had searched "vantage" on the website. It rendered 15 matches. I didn't count the knifes. I just viewed the details. Well there was 14 knives and 1 hat. So the website only has 14 as well.
 
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exiled13 said:
The paperstone? I didn't see that one on these pages.
Nevermind I saw it just after I hit send.
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The ones in the top picture are them, #340 and #345. On the website they call them the Paperstone Vantage, but in the catalog they are called the Ecolite Vantage. Same knives, but for some reason they called them something different.
 
Okay, so y'all had me confused at first, then slightly cleared up, then really confuzzled and now, I think crystal clear..:D

Thanks for all the good info!
 
LEBRON JAMES said:
i want to get this knife, but dont know much about it, no video reviews of it yet.
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If you do a search here on this forum you'll find plenty of reviews of the Vantage line.

I believe that you'll get a better review here than you will from one of the videos. For the most part, the video knife reviews that I've watched were good for a laugh, but not much else. :D
 
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