Buckmaster Wire Cutter Attachment

sassafrassdogs3 said:
Do they happen to show the other side of the blade? It's going to be the only way to date it.
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Will this do? It's the only reverse side photo that was posted.

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The knife came from the late Tom Clinton's collection from way back when. Tom was a very highly respected dealer/collector of Randall knives. The owner says the wire cutter has the "exact" same finish as the knife. He has no doubt that Buck made it. I believe that is all he knows. We might have to wait for a Joe Houser or Jeff Hubbard to chime in.
 
TAH said:
Will this do? It's the only reverse side photo that was posted.

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The knife came from the late Tom Clinton's collection from way back when. Tom was a very highly respected dealer/collector of Randall knives. The owner says the wire cutter has the "exact" same finish as the knife. He has no doubt that Buck made it. I believe that is all he knows. We might have to wait for a Joe Houser or Jeff Hubbard to chime in.
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I'm not doubting the man's credentials. From what I can see there is no tang stamp. That would make this one of the first ones made. The metal was bead blasted after the first 1,000.
Yeah I just don't know? The spikes do look short or could be camera angle? Joe, Jeff or Rich would be the best ones to know. Email the pic to Joe and see what he say's.
 
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sassafrassdogs3 said:
From what I can see there is no tang stamp.
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Re-reading your post, are you saying that some Buckmasters have a second tang stamp on the reverse side of the blade? The main tang stamp is visible in most of the photos.

Here is a close up of the tang stamp.

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Hmmm, no date code. If it's legit, it would have to be an early one????

Would love to get Richard Neyman in on this.
 
sassafrassdogs3 said:
Do they happen to show the other side of the blade? It's going to be the only way to date it. I think the wire cutter is aftermarket. This could quite possibly be a counterfeit. The spikes look too short?
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In the picture showing the wire cutter installed and the end cap off, you can see the tang stamp.

My question is, without a fixed pivot, what keeps the cutter from lifting out of the base when it is used?
Is the wire being cut used as the pivot?
 
That's kinda what it looks like. That you run the wire through the two pieces, hold the knife handle in your right hand, while pushing the Anchor pin/cutter handle away from you in your left hand to shear the wire in two. If that's how you use it, doesn't look like it would work that great??/
 
TAH said:
Re-reading your post, are you saying that some Buckmasters have a second tang stamp on the reverse side of the blade? The main tang stamp is visible in most of the photos.

Here is a close up of the tang stamp.

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On the reverse side if there is a patent pend. would start it off as the second variation in 1985. The early ones didn't have date codes...
 
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I just emailed rich hopefully he should be here soon.....even if that wire cutter is aftermarket it is badass---I want 1 er 2!!!! ha

if that was done in a home shop he is one hell of a machinist-very nice..
 
Here is Joe's reply...

Hello Tom,

I am going to get Rich to comment as he has a lot more very cool details about that wire cutter. I believe he even has a hand drawn picture of it, made by, I think, Mr. Olsen at Phrobis. I’ll email Rich right away!

Take care,
Joe Houser
 
JD Mandrell said:
I can't see the pictures either, but there is mention in the book of sheaths with an experimental wire cutter attachment for the Buckmaster 184.

It's the black sheath in these pictures.

They revived the idea for the M9 sheath, but IIRC the Army said it was to heavy!

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The BLACK wire cutter sheath was made and IS a Navy SEAL wire cutter! Made for SEAL Team 3! SEE pictures like these are FURTHER proof that the BuckMaster was a Historic piece and was issued to the SEALs (1985). Matter of Fact if you go to the National Navy UDT-SEAL Museum in Florida a BuckMaster and a Combat Utility Knife (CUK) is in the Museum.. This BLACK SEAL Team wire cutter Sheath predates the XM9 # 29 GREEN scabbard wire cutter (which was to heavy )I have a whole Chapter on in “M9 Bayonet The Authorized History”.
 
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Doug Olson of PHROBIS made this FIRST Variation SEAL wire cutter ! Many years ago a GREAT Friend emailed me a picture I sent that picture of THIS wire cutter to Rick MacDonald , Bob MacDonald and Harry Camphuysen ALL of PHROBIS ALL didn't remember this VARIATION of wire cutter I told my Friend I didnt think it was made by PHROBIS. Well I was DEAD WRONG. Doug hand Made it and he was out of county when my friend asked and I questioned the fellas..

OH WeLL... Here is a page from my book "M9 Bayonet The AUTHORIZED History"..... I show the development of the wire cutter.. Doug OLSON told me he made TWO of these PAUL BOS heat treated them back in the mid 1980's... I OWN THIS ONE Other one is long gone!
 
Thanks Rich. Too bad they didn't put the cutter into production as an accessory. Either the handle mount version or the scabbard mounted version.
 
gedlicks said:
Thanks Rich. Too bad they didn't put the cutter into production as an accessory. Either the handle mount version or the scabbard mounted version.
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YOUR VERY WELCOME!
TOTALLY AGREED WITH THAT AS AN accessorie!
MAYBE on BuckMaster 2.0 there MIGHT be accessories! WHO KNOWS
 
rich XDguys said:
Doug OLSON told me he made TWO of these PAUL BOS heat treated them back in the mid 1980's... I OWN THIS ONE Other one is long gone!
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Thanks Rich, but I'm a little confused. Were there only two of these wire cutters made? You own one and the other one is long gone? What about the wire cutter shown in this thread? Is it different?
 
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