-
The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/ - Order as many as you like, we have plenty.
bug out bag. are you serious about it?
- Thread starter sogflash
- Start date
I too, live in a peaceful area.
I DEFINITELY don't need one.
If, for some reason I DID make/have one, I would be making it for fun.
I'd use it the first time I went out in the woods, just because I can.
So, yeah. Im wondering the same thing that you are.
I DEFINITELY don't need one.
If, for some reason I DID make/have one, I would be making it for fun.
I'd use it the first time I went out in the woods, just because I can.
So, yeah. Im wondering the same thing that you are.
stevekolt
Gold Member
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2007
- Messages
- 3,081
Sorry guys, but the stool can hit the propellor anywhere! Our new house in WV is about as peaceful as it gets, but 2-3 weeks ago we were hit by a storm, (the likes of which everyone says has never happened before) that took out power for a week. BOB's are not just for wars/riots etc. We keep a 3 day bag in each car, and 2 larger packs at our house in NJ that will be moved to WV once we make the move permanently. Just MHO.
People in Japan used to think the same thing. Earthquake, Tsunami, Volcano Changed all that. It can happen anywhere, even in remote, beautiful locations. By not having anything at all prepared is what makes disasters worse than they need to be. Back in 1977 we had the blizzard in Buffalo NY. I was a kid, we lived on a farm. We saw no one for 2 weeks & had 21 foot + snow drifts everywhere. We had no problems. We did not have a snowmobile. We had food, water & heat. It was not a disaster at all for us, just a 2 week inconvenience. It was a disaster for those that were not prepared. Some things you just can't prepare for, but many you can. Simple things, like ALWAYS keeping your gas tank full, knowing different routes to get out of the area (& driving them beforehand), having a set meeting place for family who are not home, extra food & water, backup communications, etc, etc goes a long way to make a disaster just an inconvenience.
Triton
Gold Member
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2000
- Messages
- 35,968
I'm going to totally agree with this one. In fact I would say that a "bug out bag" (I prefer the term 72 hour kit) is precisely for things that are NOT wars / Armegeddon / Zombie Apocalypes. They are for minor localized disasters and evacuations where you might have to leave your residence and spend some time in a shelter or traveling somewhere out of the immediate area. The reasons for this are simple, first, there's only so much food that you can put in a single pack no matter how big. Second, (and I even started a thread in whine and cheese once mocking this) where are you going to bug out TOO? In other words assume that your "bug out bag" contains food, water, a small condo, an atv, 6000 rounds of ammunition, 15 knives and 3 guns. Then the end of the world hits, where are you going with that? Out in the local hills with everyone else that is "bugging out" where you can fight each other for the "bug out bag" of the only guy that remembered to bring toilet paper and coffee? Let's be real please.
In my opinion a 72 hour kit should stick to the basics. Food, water, shelter, basic (and I mean basic not a mobile trauma unit unless you actually have medical training) supplies, and a change of clothing. Other things that are really good to have are maps, candy and some games to keep the children occupied if you are in a shelter or whatever.
My thoughts.
I do have a bug out bag. I don't expect the government to collapse next week nor do I expect zombies (though one can always hold out hope ). In my situation I live in a suburb of Memphis. Memphis is sitting on the New Madrid fault line which is way overdue for a big rumble.
). In my situation I live in a suburb of Memphis. Memphis is sitting on the New Madrid fault line which is way overdue for a big rumble.
Triton
Gold Member
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2000
- Messages
- 35,968
You would think that, and people that have 72 hour kits probably would. Ironically it's the people without 72 hour kits that also don't have anything else around the house. After the tornado outbreak the year before last entire neighborhoods in my area were ghost towns. People had nothing and instead left the area. They had no supplies and no electricity. So they went to the beach or the mountains or a hotel somewhere instead. They could do this because the damage was extremely localized. We were without power for a week and it proved to be a very interesting and educational experience.
- Joined
- Aug 19, 2007
- Messages
- 39,076
I live very close to the river three miles from the Oregon coast. During the winter the tides come within a few feet of the front door. When the tsunami alarms go off you can bet that we grab our BOBs and head up hill. You never know when one will be the real thing. It's happened here before.
- Joined
- Mar 16, 2012
- Messages
- 939
"Bugging In" is probably much more important than "Bugging Out"...Out means wholesale evacuation of not only your home but the entire area...
Think of what is normally in the news while preparing a bug out bag. Most times it is a house fire, etc. that requires immediate evacuation for hours to several days. Storms that may destroy roads, etc. may require bugging out for a few days...recently in NH...
These and other "typical" emergencies are the norm for needing a bug out bag...perhaps your thinking about the "typical" bug out disasters may have you rethink what you are putting in your bug out bag but several days of easy to carry and store food, clothing...changing icky socks is a small slice of heaven when your feet are wet, cold and icky...etc.
Bugging in is probably the more typical scenario...storms, loss of power, etc may all be reasons to need a supply of potable water and food...generally canned foods are inexpensive, go a long way, are easily storable and last a long time.
Many of us have lived through major storms that have left areas without power, etc. for extended periods of time...having supplies to get you, your family and perhaps a neighbor or two through these difficulties with minimal worry makes life much easier.
I've traveled a lot via car and have been stranded several times, never more than hours but it seemed a lot longer. I carry a set of emergency bags in my car and have for decades. Currently one holds a variety of clothing, warm and cold weather, blanket and sleeping bag along with an extra pair of shoes for my wife and I. Nothing glamorous...all of the stuff is extra stuff we have but can be tossed out if needed and useful if needed. I also carry a backpack that is more camping related with dried foods, medical supplies, fire making, etc. All the stuff I feel may be needed if I had to "rough it" in the open for a night or more. Last is a Maxpedition Fatboy that carries more immediately useful stuff that is used more frequently...common medical stuff for bug bites, sunburn, minor cuts, abrasions, etc., energy bars, compass, whistle, bandana's, etc. I use this bag fairly frequently when hiking, etc. and replace used stuff as necessary.
I also carry a folding saw, fixed blade knives(2), folders, etc.
I've used the water, food, medical supplies and especially the clothing when and as needed...replacing in the same fashion. It does not have to be a bug out scenario...maybe getting caught in a storm, sitting for hours in a highway traffic jam, etc. to need some of these things for yourself, family or maybe earning Karma points by being the good Samaritan.
Think of what is normally in the news while preparing a bug out bag. Most times it is a house fire, etc. that requires immediate evacuation for hours to several days. Storms that may destroy roads, etc. may require bugging out for a few days...recently in NH...
These and other "typical" emergencies are the norm for needing a bug out bag...perhaps your thinking about the "typical" bug out disasters may have you rethink what you are putting in your bug out bag but several days of easy to carry and store food, clothing...changing icky socks is a small slice of heaven when your feet are wet, cold and icky...etc.
Bugging in is probably the more typical scenario...storms, loss of power, etc may all be reasons to need a supply of potable water and food...generally canned foods are inexpensive, go a long way, are easily storable and last a long time.
Many of us have lived through major storms that have left areas without power, etc. for extended periods of time...having supplies to get you, your family and perhaps a neighbor or two through these difficulties with minimal worry makes life much easier.
I've traveled a lot via car and have been stranded several times, never more than hours but it seemed a lot longer. I carry a set of emergency bags in my car and have for decades. Currently one holds a variety of clothing, warm and cold weather, blanket and sleeping bag along with an extra pair of shoes for my wife and I. Nothing glamorous...all of the stuff is extra stuff we have but can be tossed out if needed and useful if needed. I also carry a backpack that is more camping related with dried foods, medical supplies, fire making, etc. All the stuff I feel may be needed if I had to "rough it" in the open for a night or more. Last is a Maxpedition Fatboy that carries more immediately useful stuff that is used more frequently...common medical stuff for bug bites, sunburn, minor cuts, abrasions, etc., energy bars, compass, whistle, bandana's, etc. I use this bag fairly frequently when hiking, etc. and replace used stuff as necessary.
I also carry a folding saw, fixed blade knives(2), folders, etc.
I've used the water, food, medical supplies and especially the clothing when and as needed...replacing in the same fashion. It does not have to be a bug out scenario...maybe getting caught in a storm, sitting for hours in a highway traffic jam, etc. to need some of these things for yourself, family or maybe earning Karma points by being the good Samaritan.
- Joined
- Dec 27, 2010
- Messages
- 6,852
I have to admit, the first thing I thought when I saw this thread was "zombies gonna eat ur face." In almost exactly that spelling and everything. Not sure what that says about me.
That being said, here in Colorado, as you may have noticed before people started freaking out about theaters, we have a lot of fires. Can be nice to have something you can just grab and go. And, the whole point of most disaster movies is that most people are usually caught unprepared. Plan for the worst, not the quotidian.
That being said, here in Colorado, as you may have noticed before people started freaking out about theaters, we have a lot of fires. Can be nice to have something you can just grab and go. And, the whole point of most disaster movies is that most people are usually caught unprepared. Plan for the worst, not the quotidian.
and IMHO, that is a direct violation of your constitutional rights. I don't know if New Yorkers have tried to stand up to that or not. I know they finally are in Chicago.
This is true. Moreover, in my case, if a big earthquake does hit and causes enough destruction for us to 'bug out', will we even be able to get to our bug out stuff, weapons, etc.? Otherwise, several cases of bottled water and canned food are in my pantry. Cans of dog food too (have to make sure the pups are ok.)
- Joined
- Jan 5, 2011
- Messages
- 6,194
- Joined
- Mar 21, 2012
- Messages
- 299
I live in the same conditions. but I have mild anxiety issues so I take every shred of media doomsaying hype, whether its war or environmental disaster, and stress about it as if its absolute fact for days. nothing serious, I'm not suicidal, but I'll worry about it in the back of my mind for days just feeling helpless (I get it from my mom). its really annoying.
even still, I don't have a bug out bag. part of that is that I try not to let my illogical emotions run my life. besides, I am aware of how unlikely it is when I look at it rationally. having these anxieties helps me understand why some people do have these things though.
ridnovir
Gold Member
- Joined
- Mar 12, 2012
- Messages
- 1,473
Thanks man I feel violated too. Unfortunately most New Yorkers are liberal yuppies that support gun control even though people get killed everyday here by gangsters.
Never had understood why so many peoples' SHTF plan essentially involves leaving home, where all their stuff is, and taking a bag into the woods.
I have a bugout bag for the same reasons that I have first aid kits, fire extinguishers, and a concealed handgun permit. I like to be prepared. My bugout bag doesn't actually have a firearm in it. Anybody who lives in an area that has periodic natural disasters ( hurricanes/tornadoes in my case ) should have an emergency kit with enough food/water/clothing for 3 days. It's not paranoia, it's just common sense. Where I live, it's not unusual to be isolated and without power for up to a week after a hurricane hits. I need enough stuff set aside to last comfortably through that amount of time. Generally, this means staying home, but what if my home is destroyed in the hurricane?