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Bummer Story 110 #66 Mastodon

Scott Hartman

Scott Hartman

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Several months ago I purchased a Mastodon Ivory handled and etched blade Buck 110 #66/250 that was made in the Custom shop. The seller is a nationally recognized very reputable purveyor of knives. He was selling 2 identical knives, 1 was #66, the other #113 of 250 made. The knives were inadvertently switched at some point before shipping, and I received #113 with #66 Certificate of Authenticity. I contacted the seller, he apologized, said to ship it back and he would have ther other buyer do likewise. Stuff happens...we all know that, but now this other guy has decided he wants to keep #66 and has sent the #113 Certificate back to seller.....I guess in hopes I'll take his knife. I only want what I've paid for.
If any of you Buck guys happen to have a friend with a newly acquired #66/250 Mastodon Ivory 110 ....encourage him to make the RIGHT choice.
 
I hope you can get them switched around.

If not, at least you'll have the right paperwork.

Good luck with it!
 
He SHOULD make the RIGHT Choice... but I DOUBT he will... but hope you get it sorted out. Does he live in the UK? I will get him for ya :D:D:D:D:D
 
i would cntact the sell and ask for a BIG adjustyment
as wasint it because of the number that you paid so much for it?
 
The guy probably knows he can get a new certificate from Buck, so it doesn't bother him to send that back.

The seller is the responsible party here. He needs to tell that buyer that he has no contract to buy that item and he has to send it back and get the correct one (at the seller's expense for shipping).

The auction contract between that seller and that buyer is for #113 and #113 only.

Buyer can't keep it.

In the same fashion, you don't have to keep #113 for the same reason.
 
Rocinante said:
The guy probably knows he can get a new certificate from Buck, so it doesn't bother him to send that back.

The seller is the responsible party here. He needs to tell that buyer that he has no contract to buy that item and he has to send it back and get the correct one (at the seller's expense for shipping).

The auction contract between that seller and that buyer is for #113 and #113 only.

Buyer can't keep it.

In the same fashion, you don't have to keep #113 for the same reason.
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Yep... thats my take on it too.

But once the knife has been sent and delivered... its not a easy task for the seller to rectify it is it without the other buyers help and understanding. If he dont want to do the right thing then I cant think of a way to force him to.

Mav
 
334dave said:
i would cntact the sell and ask for a BIG adjustyment
as wasint it because of the number that you paid so much for it?
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You hit the nail on the head...I paid top dollar for #66/250...on Feb 13th...and that's the knife I'm owed. The "other" buyer is trying to take advantage of the sellers error of not matching the engraved blade w/ the COA. I guess there are a few of "those kind" of Buck collectors.:mad: It was mentioned...6 weeks ago...that it could be taking some time...since it would be being returned from California.
 
If the knife was described as #113 and the buyer got #66, the buyer has no right to keep it.

Mistakes happen, but they do not justify the buyer to keep the item erroneously sent. It is simply not his property and there is no doubt who the legitimate owner is.

The seller will have to make a complaint at his local police station and they will contact the buyer's local police to stop by and make him an offer he can't refuse.

Like send it back or go to jail.....and they won't let him play with knives in jail.
 
Scott,
Three options that I see.
(1) You can send the knife back for a refund,
(2) Ask the seller for the other guy's name so you can seek civil recourse privately.
(3) Keep the knife and ask for the correct certificate.

Curiously, how much of a value differential is there between the #66 and the #113?
Mike
 
Curiously, how much of a value differential is there between the #66 and the #113?
Mike
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They were the same price...but,I bought #66....in 30,40, or 50 years which would carry a greater value. As a collector, I always strive to purchase single or double digit numbered knives. Would someone pay the same for #2001 of 2002, as they would for #2 of 2002....maybe...maybe not...collector's perception of value vs. the potential buyer's perception of value.
It's likely, that I would have paid more, for a knife numbered 1 through 9.....but should I settle for a substitute, because of another persons error, and anothers greed?
 
...This situation really sucks...Scott...What are the chances of you finding any of the earlier production numbered knives?...As it does seem that this is a deal that is not nearly to your satisfaction, could you ask the seller for a refund in the hopes of ultimately finding one of the earlier ones?...Somehow I just don't think ol' 113 will sit too well with you at this point...:confused:
 
Scott,

This really bites big! :grumpy: I'm with DarrylS on this one. :( That #113 is gonna fester and fester. :( :( I might be interested in a Mastadon Ivory etched Buck 110 from the Custom Shop if some one had one they didnt seem to really like all that much. :o :o :o Seriously, I hope it works out for you.:)
 
Scott Hartman said:
..... should I settle for a substitute, because of another persons error, and anothers greed?
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Definately not!!

I would want what I paid for! It also doesn't appear to me that the seller is trying too hard to make things right?
Keep us updated, I am curious to see how this plays out.
Have you posted any of this in the GB&U?
This guy won't be sellin' anything to me :D
I hope it all works out!
 
Scott Hartman said:
Several months ago I purchased a Mastodon Ivory handled and etched blade Buck 110 #66/250 that was made in the Custom shop. The seller is a nationally recognized very reputable purveyor of knives. He was selling 2 identical knives, 1 was #66, the other #113 of 250 made. The knives were inadvertently switched at some point before shipping, and I received #113 with #66 Certificate of Authenticity. I contacted the seller, he apologized, said to ship it back and he would have ther other buyer do likewise. Stuff happens...we all know that, but now this other guy has decided he wants to keep #66 and has sent the #113 Certificate back to seller.....I guess in hopes I'll take his knife. I only want what I've paid for.
If any of you Buck guys happen to have a friend with a newly acquired #66/250 Mastodon Ivory 110 ....encourage him to make the RIGHT choice.
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Scott,

Did the seller send this guy your #66 COA or is it still in his control? I would ask the seller to give you this guys name and addy!!!! I live in CA and maybe I can pay this guy a little visit for you. Keep us informed Scott and please post a pic of this Elkadon handled knife; even if it's #113 :p .

jb4570
 
jb4570 said:
Scott,

Did the seller send this guy your #66 COA or is it still in his control? I would ask the seller to give you this guys name and addy!!!! I live in CA and maybe I can pay this guy a little visit for you. Keep us informed Scott and please post a pic of this Elkadon handled knife; even if it's #113 :p .

jb4570
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Currently, the seller has the #113 knife I sent back..and both COA's. The seller remains professional, and will not disclose any buyers personal information, which is right, especially for dealing with my occasional redneck mentality. I may end up with the #113, but it won't be without a fight( and compensation). I'll definitely post pictures of the knife I end up with...as well as a warning to watch out for the "other buyers" numbered knife, as his ethics in the future for selling, may be same as for buying at the present.
Elkadon is from a time period when long-haired humanoids roamed the earth:p
 
Has the seller contacted the police? Did you get your money back? What's your seller's feedback look like?
 
Rocinante said:
Has the seller contacted the police? Did you get your money back? What's your seller's feedback look like?
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It wasn't from the 'bay, and hopefully the other buyer will give in before we have to involve the law,... and it's only been 2 months:rolleyes:

When I say long-haired, I mean head to toe, front to back, long-haired:eek:
 
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