Bush Explains Medicare Drug Bill

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Bush Explains Medicare Drug Bill
-- Verbatim Quote
2005-12-13 16:35:14


WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: 'I don't really understand. How is the new plan
going to fix the problem?'

Verbatim response: PRESIDENT BUSH:

'Because the -- all which is on the table begins to address the big cost
drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, for example, is on
the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price
increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being
considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers,
affecting those -- changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to
get what has been promised more likely to be -- or closer delivered to
that has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of
muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the -- like, for
example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as
opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate
-- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed to wage
increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were
put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the
promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is affected, it will
help on the red.':confused: :confused: :confused:
 
This came to me in an email that had been forwarded several times. As far as I can tell, the original source was someone who was in the audience when the comments were made.
 
Sorry, but for some reason this made me chuckle...

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After you've sourced the quote, I'd like to help put it in context.

Anyone could cherrypick a Bush collection of words and have a field day showing catastrophy. Certainy, if you tried the same test on Bill Clinton, you would be much harder pressed to find fault. Much. On the other hand, George Will said in his column as Clinton was leaving office,

"Bill Clinton is not the worst President we've ever had, but he may be the worst man ever to have been President."

Think about it; the worst man. I consider Mr Bush for what he's done and is doing. I scarcely bother myself with the entertainment of dissecting his word salad.



munk
 
Entertainment is about all that's left to those of us who are aghast at current directions but have no power (yet) to change it.
 
You know, politics aside, I think Pres. Bush would have a lot less trouble with the press and public if his communication skills were a little more honed. He gets everything so jumbled up to where, as Munk said, it's a word salad. It almost sounds like a Mad Libb sometimes. You know, where you are given a story where you write in random adverbs, adjectives, verbs, and nouns and it comes out all silly. He's not a great speaker, but I like the fact that he is a doer. History will decide if he was a pioneer for freedom or just stammering goon. Lincoln was pretty unpopular in his day. However, let me be the first to point out that I know absolute SQUAT about presidential history. My political arguments end where my own selfish requirements in a Prez begin. Do I feel safer with this guy in office? Yeah. Do I give a fig if they are reading this and listening into my calls? Nope. Do I think Iraq was bungled a bit? Sure. All wars are hell, and we gotta make lemonade.
Actually, for the record I am dropping off the political map. I no longer care. The media is a bunch of gutter snipes. The Dems poo-poo everything Bush does, but I have yet to hear concrete plans to do anything differently. The Reps certainly are getting away from "small government" which a social introvert like myself doesn't really like.
I'm this > < close to just stake off my yard...and maybe the neighbors yard and call it Jakonia. I would be a country unto myself, and all here are welcome. The Guinness will flow free (as well and drinks of choice for our non-drinkers...Jakonia 'tis a fair land), the women will wear no bras...until they are 35, then something tasteful yet pretty will be assigned, there will be much khuk chopping and many guns a'shooting, and finally we will train monkeys to fight with pool noodles in a grand simian gladiator match. No monkey will be hurt, and many laughs will be had. we can each take turns being King for a day. Of course, no real power will be had. You just get to wear a modified beer helm shaped smartly like a crown and get a couple of the fine ladies to hang from each arm.


Jake
 
I like the concept of Jakonia. How are you going to control the boarders of such a utopia though? Soon it will be full of uninvited hoohas that just want to suck up your guiness and check out your wifes boobs! You'll have to create the round table of khukuri toting border guards. Now you gotta support the troops. And who is going to decide who gets in and who gets evicted? I just can't imagine it being perfect for long.

I like Bush bc he's a doer too. I don't care if he can speak. I don't think the drug benefit is worth a pile of laha. Bush's legacy is his judges and the war. I think both were necessary and executed well enough under the circumstances. History will be the true test. Some of his forays into legislation scare me. To mention a constitutional amendment enacted by todays government is terrifying to me. I write it off as another case of Bush mouth going too far.

Since we're on a political thread, anybody hear the crap Gore was spraying to the SAUDI's this week? What an ass.
 
I'm this > < close to just stake off my yard...and maybe the neighbors yard and call it Jakonia. I would be a country unto myself, and all here are welcome. The Guinness will flow free (as well and drinks of choice for our non-drinkers...Jakonia 'tis a fair land), the women will wear no bras...until they are 35, then something tasteful yet pretty will be assigned, there will be much khuk chopping and many guns a'shooting, and finally we will train monkeys to fight with pool noodles in a grand simian gladiator match. No monkey will be hurt, and many laughs will be had. we can each take turns being King for a day. Of course, no real power will be had. You just get to wear a modified beer helm shaped smartly like a crown and get a couple of the fine ladies to hang from each arm.
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I like it! I would like to reserve the winter solstice as my king day please.
 
Jakonia will need a ballistic missle to keep the peace with it's neighbors...


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Republicans can't speak well anyway. The press is hostile and won't quote them favorably. They haven't been able to cut through the media since Newt Gingrich left.

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The recent scandals have reminded me why I'm not a Republican or Democrat. And I'm sorry, but I still remember Clinton's last minute pardons too freshly for me to think corruption is a Republican thing.



munk
 
aproy1101 said:
I like the concept of Jakonia. How are you going to control the boarders of such a utopia though? Soon it will be full of uninvited hoohas that just want to suck up your guiness and check out your wifes boobs! You'll have to create the round table of khukuri toting border guards. Now you gotta support the troops. And who is going to decide who gets in and who gets evicted? I just can't imagine it being perfect for long.
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Bah! A great mind can't be bothered with such trivial things. Any free loaders shall be challanged to an arm-wrestling match with the King of the day. Should the King lose, then the pool noodle monkeys will be unleashed upon said hoohas. There will be much whapping of foam and flinging of monkey poo. If anyone needs me at that time, I will be in my royal chambers...ya know, passed out under the pool table.
I predict the glorious empire to last 7 days and 4 hours. At that time I will get sick of the idea and we will out of beer. I will then tell you all to get the hell off my property because my head hurts and my wife is sick of people lookin at her sweater cows. And the monkey crap! My God, who knew monkeys could make so much of something so foul!

On a side note...of course, Rob:D
 
We had a Governor, Caperton who was painful to listen to. Turns out that he had dyslexia as a kid and had trouble giving speeches. He was an OK, but not outstanding gov though.:thumbup: The previous Republican gov had run the state into the red(sound familiar?) and Caperton got it back in the black. However as a state employee the like one 800 dollar raise in 8 years was pretty hard to bear. Even with low inflation at the time my earning power eroded.:thumbdn: Luckily we have a surplus now:thumbup: , and our Gov is not giving it all out in tax cuts, but keeping some for emergencies and to bail out the pension plans which were underfunded for years.

I think Bush's speech difficulties are related to brain damage from his years of drinking and doing coke. I don't think he's stupid like so many people do.
 
think Bush's speech difficulties are related to brain damage from his years of drinking and doing coke.>>>>>>>


I trust you are just being funny. He was never in that league- and I don't recall Dylan Thomas having trouble writing or speaking, nor Faulkner, nor H S Thompson, etc etc etc.

I just don't think George Bush Jr speaks very well.


munk
 
munk said:
The recent scandals have reminded me why I'm not a Republican or Democrat. And I'm sorry, but I still remember Clinton's last minute pardons too freshly for me to think corruption is a Republican thing.
munk
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Corruption is bi partisan;)

I think whenever one party controls both houses of congress it's pretty much going to happen. Divided government works.

The problem I have with President Bush is he basically knows the GOP is not really going to go after him if he does something wrong, and he has packed the court not with conservatives so much, but with people loyal to the Bush royal family. As the old saying goes "It is better to know the judge than know the law"

Also where Clinton declassified large numbers of documents, and even declassified the GPS system, Bush has used the terror thing to hide behind secrecy. In fact between Bush and the Republican congress I have never seen a group as bent on making their actions so secret that the public cannot even tell what's going on. How can the electorate be informed and debate the issues if they can't figure them out?? "Trust me", is the message Bush says.


I believe that is why the Bush has been so successful at politics and winning elections is the same reason that the Bush administration has been such a colossal failure at running the country.

A consistent message and facts that support your political position can win an election, but when you either fire, or marginalize anyone in your circle of advisors who gives you an opinion that may contradict your political position, then you may be delivering a consistent message, but that message may not be based on reality, and secrecy, spin and discrediting opponents may work to obscure reality for a time, but eventually reality wins.:rolleyes:
 
Hollow, we disagree as usual.

I think you read too much cloak, dagger, and Fortune 500.



munk
 
I will then tell you all to get the hell off my property because my head hurts and my wife is sick of people lookin at her sweater cows. And the monkey crap! My God, who knew monkeys could make so much of something so foul!
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This truly made me laugh out loud--loudly!

If you and I and my brother ever got together....It would be udder madness (sorry had to pay homage to "sweater cows")
 
Well I agree that corruption is bi-partisan. I'm a big proponent of the two party system, even if, like Munk, I can't say I'm on board with either party.

I too think Bush keeps too many of his documents secret. Even though I think he does it because the media is unbearably slanted, I don't like it. I also think that he came on board with a compasionate conservative pitch, but has basically played strong arm politics since the election. I really don't like them publicizing classified 411 for political gain then lying about it. To me there is no difference between lying about that and Clinton lying about blow jobs. If anything this is worse. I'm not bothered by Cheney's hunting accident, but I'd like to know more about this Libby thing. I don't, however, think Bush has mishandled running the country at all. My job is full time again, and I could probably find a new one if I was willing to move up into the bitter cold unpleasant area of wasteland north of the mason dixon line.:thumbdn: :D

Plus I don't hear any plan from any dem. Who are they going to run in the next pres bid? Hillary, Gore, Biden, Kerry, whoever it is its a scary option. What is their plan for defense against terrorism? Where do they stand on the border? Property rights?
 
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