Bush Monkey Baby Chisos 01 and G10

[Rat Finkenstein]

Or better yet, just skip the photoshop altogether, since it adds nothing.

 

[KBamhi]

It is obvious there is some painful history between members here but from a knife user standpoint I feel this knife is attractive and has potential.
I am but a noobie but I find the snide comments and insults unattractive when the member welcomed constructive criticism with what he is indicating is a prototype. Regardless of past history or mistakes this individual would appear to be trying to find his way among you guys and clearly respects your knowledge, skill, experience, and constructive feedback, as do I.

 

[HandofCod]

It is obvious there is some painful history between members here but from a knife user standpoint I feel this knife is attractive and has potential.
I am but a noobie but I find the snide comments and insults unattractive when the member welcomed constructive criticism with what he is indicating is a prototype. Regardless of past history or mistakes this individual would appear to be trying to find his way among you guys and clearly respects your knowledge, skill, experience, and constructive feedback, as do I.

I welcome your input KBamhi but you're a little wide of the mark on that last bit.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/830714-From-the-arcane-world-of-knifemaking...

 

[BMK]

What I wanted to demonstrate is that anyone can take an image and pixillate parts of it or the whole image.

Thanks for finding the source for this. I'm surprised that he's hosting the image on his website.

I can't decide which is more pathetic; him photoshopping logos on blades or the fact that he took the time to doctor an image from my website.

 

[chainring]

I haven't kept up with all the drama, and I've only just now finished my first two knives - so a knifemaker I am not yet. However, I DO have a Baby Chisos that I bought a couple weeks ago. It's a neat little knife, and unbelievably sharp. Just thought I'd throw it out here, to be fair. And I didn't photoshop the logo on there!

 

[EMT_Lee]

Well, at least we got to see the real maker's mark. Is the choil uncomfortable? It looks like it has a somewhat sharp edge?

 

[stephanfowler]

I haven't kept up with all the drama, and I've only just now finished my first two knives - so a knifemaker I am not yet. However, I DO have a Baby Chisos that I bought a couple weeks ago. It's a neat little knife, and unbelievably sharp. Just thought I'd throw it out here, to be fair. And I didn't photoshop the logo on there!

And here is the crux of what I don't understand in this whole situation (been lurking at the edges throughout, didn't have any constructive input as yet)

that's NOT A BAD KNIFE. there are some design elements that I would disagree with but that's personal opinion.

WHY does BMK feel the need to be constantly evasive. if he would just answer interested questions honestly we could have a much more interesting dialog.....

the photoshop trickery and sideslipping answers wear on a man's patience.

 

[BMK]

I took this photograph this morning of the actual laser engraving on one of my knives:

I don't have a knife laser engraved until an order is placed because some people want custom engraving. When I pick the knife upfrom the engraver I usually ship it on my way home and therefore do not have the opportunity to photograph the actual laser engraving. In order to show what the engraving looks like I often photoshop the logo on the blade. I had no idea this would be so deeply disturbing to some authentic"knifemakers".

Your own image shows excessive pixelation around the logo; a hallmark of poor photoshop work.

If you've never seen anything better, you haven't been looking very hard.

 

[stephanfowler]

I took this photograph this morning of the actual laser engraving on one of my knives:

I don't have a knife laser engraved until an order is placed because some people want custom engraving. When I pick the knife upfrom the engraver I usually ship it on my way home and therefore do not have the opportunity to photograph the actual laser engraving. In order to show what the engraving looks like I often photoshop the logo on the blade. I had no idea this would be so deeply disturbing to some authentic"knifemakers".

I don't see what was so hard about saying that outright instead of trying to pass off photoshop......


for future reference ANY feeling of photoshop in a knife picture will be met with serious skepticism around here. to much bad blood in the past of people "touching up" pictures to hide flaws that later came out when the knife was sold to a customer.

we don't expect super clean awesome work out of everyone, but we cannot tolerate anything that seems like dishonesty. It drags us all down.

 

[BMK]

My opinion that knifemaking is relatively simple is offensive to some of you. The reason you find my opinion so repulsive, though no one will admit it; is that it dimishes what you do, undermines the arcane nature of knifemaking that some of you have created and is antithetical to the self-aggrandizing you thrive on. Sadly, this thread and several others were never about knives or knifemaking and all about: I am not a knifemaker, I photoshop my logo, I was never an Officer of Marines, I am a fraud, I was never a Special Forces Officer...etc. Amusing & entertaining at times but always pitiful.

 

[ron_m80]

Most folks chemically etch the stock removal blades. The laser engraving might be great looking, but if it isn't your hallmark trait it's overhead.

 

[ron_m80]

It's not about the knives

That's too bad, because that is what everyone was trying to talk to you about, you were quibbling.

 

[stephanfowler]

My opinion that knifemaking is relatively simple is offensive to some of you. The reason you find my opinion so repulsive, though no one will admit it; is that it dimishes what you do, undermines the arcane nature of knifemaking that some of you have created and is antithetical to the self-aggrandizing you thrive on. Sadly, this thread and several others were never about knives or knifemaking and all about: I am not a knifemaker, I photoshop my logo, I was never an Officer of Marines, I am a fraud, I was never a Special Forces Officer...etc. Amusing & entertaining at times but always pitiful.

I am truly sorry you feel that way. I have never known any knifemaker to try and inflate the difficulty of any given process. most guys I talk to are constantly working towards simplifying things.

our issues with you are and have been an overwhelming perception of disinformation and doubletalk from you which has always led to further trouble.

I wish you well in your efforts as a knifemaker, have a nice day.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

It's not about the knives

This is Bladeforums. It is always about the knives.

Among businessmen, and knifemakers are very much businessmen, it is also about integrity.
Your evasive and disrespectful responses put your integrity in doubt, right from the start.

Despite the opportunity to reverse this behavior with every new day, you just don't get it.

 

[Bastid]

Although I made the accusation in private as far as the military background. I have information that the background is true; for that accusation I am sorry it was my only mistake in the consideration I made of your behavior here.
Knowing as many folks in the SF community that I do, you were the first I encountered that waved that duty around.

As far as the trollish behavior and the detrimental effect you are having here. I was 100% spot on.

If the behavior continues, we will not be dealing with it much longer. I have never seen a so called maker act with the amount of disrespect as I have seen from you. Knowing the integrity of more makers than I can name (hundreds if not thousands) and the obvious permeation of that in the community most of your posts here are so out of line they really do not deserve the light of day in this forum. Maybe it would be a good idea for you to consider the obvious.

 

[BMK]

Shalom,

Evasive? This is off my website: "Most of my orders come from people who want a knife that is engineered by someone with my experience and background - as you might imagine, experience and background in grinding steel is not at the top of their list. With the exception of the Chisos & Baby Chisos I don't regularly fabricate blades.

Bush Monkey Knives is a one man operation that makes old skool tools from a piece of bar stock steel or a finished blade one at a time in Fort Worth, Texas. I design and fabricate some models and custom assemble others using a high quality blade and hardware. I personally fit, finish, assemble and inspect every knife that leaves my shop."

I refuse to dignify any questions pertaining to my honor and integrity. If you want to call that "evasive" then that is certainly your right to do so. You must admit, the entire bladeforum vs Bush Monkey is not an even match - you guys need a few more geniuses to balance things out;-)

This is Bladeforums. It is always about the knives.

Among businessmen, and knifemakers are very much businessmen, it is also about integrity.
Your evasive and disrespectful responses put your integrity in doubt, right from the start.

Despite the opportunity to reverse this behavior with every new day, you just don't get it.

 

[BMK]

Mr Bastid,

I regret that your perspective prevents you from seeing both sides of the problem to which you refer. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

 

[Bastid]

My perspective is only based on the poor behavior I have seen from you here since day one.

In other words look in the mirror and you will see most of the problem.

 

[BMK]

In my neighborhood, "respect" is a two way street. Thank you again for sharing your perspective. That perspective is becoming very clear.

My perspective is only based on the poor behavior I have seen from you here since day one.

In other words look in the mirror and you will see most of the problem.

 

[Bastid]

In my neighborhood respect is earned and does not stem from poor behavior.