ok bro i did a little searching try check out bruzer gear on youtube they got vidz on the packs i got the mid size an mine sits lower than the guy on the vid i also got the trail pack smaller size,the mid has internal frame so packing is easy,an hydration comp.got compression straps so it ties down tite ,they sell for 150-200 but they got deals on ebay kinda hard to find i got my mid for $40 an trail for $25 ,on ebay type "hunting trail pack archery/rifle w/4 added accessories get into there store check-um out ,they might be cheap in price but dont let that fool you they are awsome w/ an life time warr. i use bruzer more than my horn canadian,an my badlands 2200,an we know how much those cost,,aloha bro