Bushcraft / Survival knife skill training questions

Hacked said:
Bush Class on Bushcraft USA, Click Me!

Hopefully not breaking any rules posting that link, I know a number of folks are members of both forums myself included. Joe is a moderator on the forms and I agree a great channel along with Mike from MCQBUSHCRAFT.
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Do you have to be a member to browse through that forum or something? That link just sent me to a page that says "There are no posts in this forum". I've tried to look around that forum before and kept getting the same message.
 
BushcraftUSA is not a recommended forum. If you mention certain survivalists, bushcrafters or products they do not like you can get banned. There are simply too many rules to follow and trigger-happy admins. A lot of bladeforums members have been banned from that site for no reason at all.

There are some good members there but the people running it have no respect for other people. Signing up would be a waste of time unless you're prepared to read pages of rules and memorise the list of people who cannot be named on the site.
 
I'm not going to tell anyone where to go forum wise, but yes, that particular site has been extremely unresaonable with some of the best, and nicest, people in the wilderness and bushcraft world.

I personally do not go there.
 
Chignecto Woodsman said:
BushcraftUSA is not a recommended forum. If you mention certain survivalists, bushcrafters or products they do not like you can get banned. There are simply too many rules to follow and trigger-happy admins. A lot of bladeforums members have been banned from that site for no reason at all.

There are some good members there but the people running it have no respect for other people. Signing up would be a waste of time unless you're prepared to read pages of rules and memorise the list of people who cannot be named on the site.
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HAHA! Im suspended at this very moment for telling people how great JK Handmade knives are in a knife discussion. They banned me for "Promoting a Business" :rolleyes:
I wont be going back. Ill stick around these parts where the people are actually fun to talk to. :D
 
Thomas Linton said:
stvpourciau is in Louisiana. :D
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True, and for that my style has adapted to environment here. For instance, I carry wire cutters in my pocket to deal with thorny vines that haunt the overgrowth here.

Rather than constantly going at them with a knife or machete, when they can't be ducked around, they are removed
 
IA Woodsman on youtube has just about everything you need in video format to learn. Plus he is an ex SERE instructor, His training and techniques are real world stuff. Plus he is a heck of nice guy.
 
I can't recommend highly enough to check out our co-moderator here, Kevin Estela, who is a protege of Marty Simon and an expert practitioner and instructor of wilderness and bushcraft skills.

http://www.kevinestela.com
 
Chignecto Woodsman said:
BushcraftUSA is not a recommended forum. If you mention certain survivalists, bushcrafters or products they do not like you can get banned. There are simply too many rules to follow and trigger-happy admins. A lot of bladeforums members have been banned from that site for no reason at all.

There are some good members there but the people running it have no respect for other people. Signing up would be a waste of time unless you're prepared to read pages of rules and memorise the list of people who cannot be named on the site.
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Wow, I joined there a wile back..and I've mentioned just about every "survivalist" there is, Grylls, Stroud, Mears, Stewart, etc... of course it was within the context of the discussion... but nothing happened. I'll have to keep an eye out.

On the topic of clothes over all else; yeah, i somewhat agree. I think that it falls under a form of shelter. But, given that, IF I had a proper knife, I could be naked in the middle of the winter here in Michigan, build myself a suitable shelter and fire and survive. If I am protected from the elements and warm, clothing becomes secondary.

Not that I like being naked in the wild. That's more Discovery Channel's thing.
 
My main thought with that is that you are essentially four hours to four days ahead of the game if you go into the bush with proper clothing. Just think if you went into the bush naked with that knife, you would have to spend a whole day gathering materials and building a shelter. Then you would have to either stay in your shelter, find a way to make fire, and/or continually return to the shelter to warm up while praying that a deer comes for you to kill it, skin it, and rack the hide to make clothing.

There, your four hours, four days, and four weeks are all consumed, presuming you didn't die. Meanwhile, someone else goes into the winter woods with proper clothing and they are instantly four hours to four days ahead of the game. You can immediately begin working on your fire, building your shelter, and/or searching for water and food.

Going with only a knife immediately puts you into a survival situation, while going in with proper clothes does not. Going in with proper clothing is essentially being forty days ahead, and you will not be in a survival situation until you are desperate for food. Naked and Afraid simply would not work in a winter environment. They can go in with a knife only because the conditions demand a lack of clothing, or cooling clothes, for their situation. If you can go into a true winter situation with only a knife then you are probably the best survivalist who ever lived. Do you have Lundin feet or something? Remember, even he wore socks and shorts in the winter.

The other issue is time spent to make up for the lack of gear, and the time spent using it. It is much less time consuming to make a cutting tool in the woods than it is to make clothing. A useable cutting tool can be made in minutes while stringing together spruce bow sweaters and socks would take you most of a day. Aside from this, you are constantly using the shelter around you and clothing, while a knife you are only using for short amounts of time.

Without proper clothing in a winter situation, and without the ability to properly regulate body temperature in other situations, the knife is completely useless.
 
Chignecto Woodsman said:
BushcraftUSA is not a recommended forum. If you mention certain survivalists, bushcrafters or products they do not like you can get banned. There are simply too many rules to follow and trigger-happy admins. A lot of bladeforums members have been banned from that site for no reason at all.

There are some good members there but the people running it have no respect for other people. Signing up would be a waste of time unless you're prepared to read pages of rules and memorise the list of people who cannot be named on the site.
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the reason for that was Dave Canterbury was plugging the crap out of his YT channel and website/store/school, while refusing to pay the advertising membership fees associated with, and in violation of their policies. And then he argued with EVERYONE about every single thing. And then there was that whole "why you got thrown off Dual Survival" thing....etc, etc.........

Not only that he was banned once....he made several accounts of varying names [like...to the tune of 8-10] but the admins kept catching him, banning his multiple accounts because he couldn't leave well enough alone.

and in addition to what was already said, the forum itself comes under scrutiny for "trademarking" the word "BushCraft" - which, BTW, caused another forum of similar name [and respectable reputation] to suffer a cease and desist order and forced to change their name. At least, that's how I understood the whole smoke and pony show.....

You cannot [or at least as I understand it, "not supposed to be able to"] trademark a 'common use' word or phrase. It would be like me trying to trademark the ancient word "Triquetra" - or in it's current Christian name, "Trinity Knot." Yet, that forum was able to TM the word BushCraft, after having been coined may years ago by someone else [I think Mors Kochanski, not entirely sure though].

Anyway...thought I'd help shed some light on the subject.
 
Actually, I think Bushcraft USA is where all our mods disappeared to (not including Brian, of course).

Doc
 
jonnyt16 said:
However, to me, nothing beats a good book and these are the three I have learned the most from....
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For long-term use, I much prefer books. In fact they're much easier to use in the filed than a Smartphone and saved videos. Both complement each other well, but a descriptive book with good illustrations are hard to beat.

Another two I personally love are Mors Kochanski's "Bushcraft" and USRSOG's "Six Ways in Twelve Ways Out". The latter is more E&E focused, but some excellent bushcraft skills are integrated.

ROCK6
 
druid189 said:
the reason for that was Dave Canterbury was plugging the crap out of his YT channel and website/store/school, while refusing to pay the advertising membership fees associated with, and in violation of their policies. And then he argued with EVERYONE about every single thing. And then there was that whole "why you got thrown off Dual Survival" thing....etc, etc.........

Not only that he was banned once....he made several accounts of varying names [like...to the tune of 8-10] but the admins kept catching him, banning his multiple accounts because he couldn't leave well enough alone.

and in addition to what was already said, the forum itself comes under scrutiny for "trademarking" the word "BushCraft" - which, BTW, caused another forum of similar name [and respectable reputation] to suffer a cease and desist order and forced to change their name. At least, that's how I understood the whole smoke and pony show.....

You cannot [or at least as I understand it, "not supposed to be able to"] trademark a 'common use' word or phrase. It would be like me trying to trademark the ancient word "Triquetra" - or in it's current Christian name, "Trinity Knot." Yet, that forum was able to TM the word BushCraft, after having been coined may years ago by someone else [I think Mors Kochanski, not entirely sure though].

Anyway...thought I'd help shed some light on the subject.
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There are more people than him who are 'unmentionables'. People are also randomly suspended or banned for mentioning products (as already mentioned in this thread by one who was suspended) or dogpiled on by fanboys of certain products, or if you say something which counters one of their famous members. Fact is, there is a cult of personality there and simply too many rules for anyone to memorise or care for.

I was banned because a mod didn't like me. The thread was one in which the second post advocated killing people, and I only entered a politicised discussion on page 4 or so and was banned for political discussion. Completely absurd unless they banned all the other members, as one cannot be the catalyst of political discussion when it is already political from the start.

Just thought it was fair warning as I have seen many bladeforums members banned and some there do not like this forum because there is a different philosophy. Here, there is free speech, and over there it is rigid and you are expected to obey the arbitrary rules and the cult of personality. It is not a mistake that many of the banned people are very intelligent members of the bushcraft community, and many were banned simply for disagreeing with one of the cult of personality members over there who is right simply because others like them. Look back at some of the old threads and you will see these members who hold a grudge. It is a poor mark of character to close off all future discussion with people and use arbitrary rules for those you do not like.

You can take their word for it if you want, but much of the banning of Canterbury was because of political reasons. I've seen the same excuse used for small-time members like woodtrekker and bushcraftgirl (can;t remember if that's her name or not, she's the one who's a bit extreme hippie and got piled on mainly for this difference of character). These are small blogs with no associative products, they weren;t spamming anything, and they were banned simply for being different, the business reason was just a convenient excuse, nothing more.

Just a warning because you can put time in learning rules and trying to contribute the best you can, and this may end up being an waste of time because of the arbitrary rules.
 
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Chignecto Woodsman said:
You can take their word for it if you want, but much of the banning of Canterbury was because of political reasons. I've seen the same excuse used for small-time members like woodtrekker and bushcraftgirl (can;t remember if that's her name or not, she's the one who's a bit extreme hippie and got piled on mainly for this difference of character). These are small blogs with no associative products, they weren;t spamming anything, and they were banned simply for being different, the business reason was just a convenient excuse, nothing more.
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It was bushcraft girl, AKA Susanne Williams. She is notably one of the most prominent woman bushcrafters on Youtube.
 
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