Bushcraft?

longbow1968 said:
We are on a knife forum, so we all have opinions. And I will admit to being more of a hunter who occasionally camps than a Bushcrafter. I will also admit to owning my fair share of knives including scandi grind models from Moras all the way up. But, I gotta say, they have nothing on this:
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Now that’s pretty
 
Hey my comment on this is America was meant to be a reference to the American love of buck knife folders, not free speech. . People do love their buck knives
 
Sam Brothers said:
Buck makes a 110 folder “pro” that has an s30v blade. G10 scales. 100$ seems low for a knife like that but that’s what it is. They have a whole line of s30v knives. If I figure out if they make a 102 “pro” I might but it.

My personal preference for a folder is one with a belt clip and assisted opening. If I’m going to carry a knife in a sheath it might as well be a fixed blade.
It’s just a carrying preference I don’t want to knock the folding buck knife. This is still America, after all.
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I think you just might see a 102 Pro S35VN in the future.
 
Lesknife said:
I’d love a 117 in S35vn ! The handle on the 102 is small for me but a 117 is just right.
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Ya the 117 is nice. They make a stacked leather handle version that’s pretty cool. Maybe a lot of handle for a little blade but still cool.

I just watched a video yesterday where a guy did a rope cut test comparison with a benchmade folder and a buck folder both in s30v. The buck outperformed in edge retention by a lot. I guess that could just mean benchmade uses a hotter temper or something, leaning towards blade flexibility and toughness rather than edge retention. Still pretty impressive.

I’ve read that Bucks heat treating process really ups the quality of the 420c they use. It might just mean that they don’t temper as hot and the blade is hard, but maybe more brittle. I know that heat treating carbon steel is as simple as that but I’m not even sure if there’s not more to it with stainless.

Anyone ever break the blade on a buck knife?
 
skypeace said:
This guy to me has the right idea. I have never understood all this desire to abuse knives. Woodsmanship is an elevated art, bushcraft is clearing the backyard of shrubs and weeds.
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thats a good idear. never considered that as i typically use a hatchet or axe to split wood. if all i have is a knife, this idear makes a lot of sense. thanks for posting.
 
jbmonkey said:
thats a good idear. never considered that as i typically use a hatchet or axe to split wood. if all i have is a knife, this idear makes a lot of sense. thanks for posting.
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You can split a whole tree with his technique, and you can't split a whole tree with a knife.

I enjoy watching people baton with their knives, but it really is useless. Now using it to split small pieces into smaller pieces, I can see that, but a small log into smaller pieces, better to use a wedge.

Then again, I don't do much "bushcraft" aside from hacking limbs in the yard :D
 
Jeff of the North said:
I hate to be "that guy" but the fellow in the Yugo would most likely finish the race ahead of the 10% of the cars that DNF.
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yes but it’s really a matter of matching the tool to the job. Think the Yugo’s timing belt would hold up to a 24 hour pounding at full speed?

I know, in theory, someone could be stuck in a situation needing to split firewood with only a Swiss Army knife and just happens to have enough logs of the correct diameter cut to length handy to do it but really? If they are small enough diameter you can break them to length you can just break them to split them.
 
skypeace said:
This guy to me has the right idea. I have never understood all this desire to abuse knives. Woodsmanship is an elevated art, bushcraft is clearing the backyard of shrubs and weeds.
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I guess I’ll be the black sheep here. I think batoning has its place. It’s not for splitting a cord of wood. But I will sometimes even do some light batoning in the back yard when I’ve split wood as far as I want to with the maul or hatchet. It’s a good way to make some kindling. There’s easier ways to make a fire but I like to play with knives and firewood. Ya know, sometimes I’ll make some shavings and get the fire going with a ferro rod.
There have been times when I’ve been hiking or backpacking where a small lightweight crosscut saw and a good fixed blade have helped me to make a nice campfire. A chainsaw and log splitter would be more efficient, but I never have that equipment handy miles out in the woods. Sometimes crosscut or snapped and finely split branches make much better kindling than little sticks with the bark on them. Nothing worse than burning up all your tinder and the kindling doesn’t catch. I like a lot of kindling and smaller wood to really establish a fire before I add large wood. Batoning works for me and it’s pretty easy to do. I’m not les stroud or anything I’ll use a lighter and paper or whatever but in the woods if it’s rained in the past couple days, fire can be tough depending on what material and tools you have. I’m not splitting logs with the knife just small stuff. I’m usually looking for branches I can snap and use whole for the bigger stuff. I’m not even looking to crosscut 2 inch wood by hand. For backpacking, batoning is useful. Especially when you can sharpen your knife a little when you get home.

I think making that wedge would kill the edge of your knife as much as me batoning enough wood to establish a modest campfire to last all night. If you’re in a situation where you’re camped out for a week with no axe the hardwood wedge is awesome. Really cool.

batoning and cross grain batoning is also a nice way to test the edge retention of a knife. So there’s that. And it’s fun. If I can crosscut a 2x4 with my benchmade and a rubber mallet and still shave or cut phone book paper right after, I don’t feel like splitting a few small branches is really abuse.
 
“Buck would be my last choice of knife, not been to happy with them in actual use... Buck is just a generic term for hardware store knife. “
Sorry to say but that’s kinda... wrong. Buck knives has been a term related to folding hunters, styles like the Buck 110, but nowadays we know that a Buck knife is a... Buck Knife. So I’d go pick up an actual Buck 110, 112, 55, whatever and enjoy a real Buck not a false designation. Cause if a hardware store knife is a “buck” then my Camillus Seize 2 is a buck.
 
Sam Brothers said:
Ya the 117 is nice. They make a stacked leather handle version that’s pretty cool. Maybe a lot of handle for a little blade but still cool.

I just watched a video yesterday where a guy did a rope cut test comparison with a benchmade folder and a buck folder both in s30v. The buck outperformed in edge retention by a lot. I guess that could just mean benchmade uses a hotter temper or something, leaning towards blade flexibility and toughness rather than edge retention. Still pretty impressive.

I’ve read that Bucks heat treating process really ups the quality of the 420c they use. It might just mean that they don’t temper as hot and the blade is hard, but maybe more brittle. I know that heat treating carbon steel is as simple as that but I’m not even sure if there’s not more to it with stainless.

Anyone ever break the blade on a buck knife?
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Never broken or chipped a blade on my 110 S30V, and I use it for everything. EDC stuff to “bushcraft” survival-camping type things. (Not batonning...). I’d say you’re safe, obviously the Clip point is more fragile but besides that, it’ll live.
 
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