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Bushman 95BUS vs 95BUSC
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I think the difference is that they are mirrored, I seem to remember that on the back of the knife there is a hole where the blade and handle comes together, and the bushman logo is only on one side of the blade.
Look at the bushman logo....One the first the letter "B" is close to the handle, on the other the letter "n" is close to the handle.
I could easily be mistaken as I have never seen the knife in real life my self.
Look at the bushman logo....One the first the letter "B" is close to the handle, on the other the letter "n" is close to the handle.
I could easily be mistaken as I have never seen the knife in real life my self.
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I think they most likely mean that the older one (the Taiwan made version) has a glossy, black coating, whereas the newer one (the Chinese made version), from what I've read here, has a matte, black coating. That was one of the differences another forumite noticed between the old style Bushman and the newer, Bowie-bladed Bushman.
And no, I've never seen a chrome looking blade on a Bushman.
Regards,
3G
The handles on the older Bushmans with the glossy finish were not welded the seam is visible. The new bushman bowie is welded at the seam. The new Bowie does not look to promising. I chopped with it and I warped the edge a little. I was able to sharpen it out but not good. :thumbdn:
Yes, maybe the new Bowie might be like that ... but I am trying to find the difference between 95BUS and 95BUSC (and not BBUS, BBUS = Bowie)
And another question ... how fast is actually rusting this knife?
xseven: There is no difference between the two bushman's /numbers. It is the same knife. The Bushman has been around a long time Cold steel may have updated the item number over the years and your just viewing new and old web pages.
The only difference is between the new ones and the old ones. The older ones were made a little different. I don't have the new basic Bushman but from Troops post they began to weld the handles at the seam and they changed the finish.
The Bushman will rust but the finish one the old ons is very durable. The new finish seems very durable as well. Unless you leave it out in the rain all day you
shouldn't have any problems with rust.
Hope this helps.
The only difference is between the new ones and the old ones. The older ones were made a little different. I don't have the new basic Bushman but from Troops post they began to weld the handles at the seam and they changed the finish.
The Bushman will rust but the finish one the old ons is very durable. The new finish seems very durable as well. Unless you leave it out in the rain all day you
shouldn't have any problems with rust.
Hope this helps.
OK!
I think we finally have an answer! The only email back with a real answer (and I’ve sent quite a few to different shops!) comes from Dave http://www.defenseknife.com :
Thank you for your mail. I agree with you that it is quite confusing. On the forums a few speculated typos, while some suggested that there was an old model that variously had a solid handle, had a seam between the blade and handle and that it had a leather sheath.
Look at this ColdSteel page archived by archive.org from February 2004. There are no longer images but there is text on the page that clearly describes the Bushman as it was then:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040214051857/http://www.coldsteel.com/fixed-blades-bushman.html
You can see that back then in February 2004 the regular Bushman (as opposed to the Mini) was the 95BUS, back then it also had a hollow handle, no seam between blade and handle and if you look on the specs at the foot of the page for the Bushman you will see that despite the description in the text body of a leather sheath, the regular Bushman had already switched to a Cordura sheath. Compare it to the present Cold Steel Page below and you will see the new model of the Standard (as opposed to the Bowie) is the 95BUSC and that clearly the essential design and features are the same. The specs for the Standard Bushman at the foot of each page are identical.
http://www.coldsteel.com/fixed-blades-bushman.html
We still have the old model of the standard, the 95BUS listed on our site for the old pricing for $14.25 and I believe that I will have more in stock end October. If you are interested I can verify that for you. I believe that there are minor differences between the two productions which I can verify for you if you are interested.
Then there is also the Bowie model, the 95BBUS, which I have in stock now for $17.10 and which is orderable now by email.
All the best,
Dave
And again :
I have done more research and spoken to a number of people in Cold Steel. I got somewhat vague and contradictory answers until I finally reached the Director of Sales and got clarity and answers that matched my own further research.
1) The Director of Sales has been with the company 5 years and in all that time, both the knife and steel of the Bushman have been made in China out of HK-5 steel with a Cordura sheath. Nothing at all has changed in manufacture in that time.
2) The C in 95BUSC does not stand for China it stands for Cordura. Cold Steel does not change model number for country of manufacture only for feature changes. The bottom line is that Cold Steel made the change in model number from 95BUS to 95BUSC when they changed sheath.
3) However to add to the confusion at the time many distributors continued to use the old model number. To a large degree this was because Cold Steel was and is still using the old boxes printed up with the 95BUS model number!!! Additionally until recently Cold Steel was still listing the old model number instead of the new on their own website.
4) Then at the beginning of 2007 Cold Steel introduced new pricing raising MSRP from $24.99 to $29.99 with the new model number. At least one major distributor continued to list the old model number on 2006 pricing and the new model number on 2007 pricing. The truth is that there is no difference at all between the knife you get when ordering using old model number and ordering using the new model number, in both cases Cold Steel fill the orders with the 95BUSC in the 95BUS box. However, ordering using the old number 95BUS costs less because the distributor is still charging old prices on orders using the old number. At the moment that's an interesting loophole to get 2006 pricing on the 95BUSC.
So if you order using the 95BUS model number, as long as the loophole holds out you will only pay $14.35 per piece. If however, you order using the new model number 95BUSC from us you would pay $17.10 per piece!!!
All the best,
Dave
OK … sorted!
…. I just realized I forgot to ask if they ship to UK ! brr
I think we finally have an answer! The only email back with a real answer (and I’ve sent quite a few to different shops!) comes from Dave http://www.defenseknife.com :
Thank you for your mail. I agree with you that it is quite confusing. On the forums a few speculated typos, while some suggested that there was an old model that variously had a solid handle, had a seam between the blade and handle and that it had a leather sheath.
Look at this ColdSteel page archived by archive.org from February 2004. There are no longer images but there is text on the page that clearly describes the Bushman as it was then:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040214051857/http://www.coldsteel.com/fixed-blades-bushman.html
You can see that back then in February 2004 the regular Bushman (as opposed to the Mini) was the 95BUS, back then it also had a hollow handle, no seam between blade and handle and if you look on the specs at the foot of the page for the Bushman you will see that despite the description in the text body of a leather sheath, the regular Bushman had already switched to a Cordura sheath. Compare it to the present Cold Steel Page below and you will see the new model of the Standard (as opposed to the Bowie) is the 95BUSC and that clearly the essential design and features are the same. The specs for the Standard Bushman at the foot of each page are identical.
http://www.coldsteel.com/fixed-blades-bushman.html
We still have the old model of the standard, the 95BUS listed on our site for the old pricing for $14.25 and I believe that I will have more in stock end October. If you are interested I can verify that for you. I believe that there are minor differences between the two productions which I can verify for you if you are interested.
Then there is also the Bowie model, the 95BBUS, which I have in stock now for $17.10 and which is orderable now by email.
All the best,
Dave
And again :
I have done more research and spoken to a number of people in Cold Steel. I got somewhat vague and contradictory answers until I finally reached the Director of Sales and got clarity and answers that matched my own further research.
1) The Director of Sales has been with the company 5 years and in all that time, both the knife and steel of the Bushman have been made in China out of HK-5 steel with a Cordura sheath. Nothing at all has changed in manufacture in that time.
2) The C in 95BUSC does not stand for China it stands for Cordura. Cold Steel does not change model number for country of manufacture only for feature changes. The bottom line is that Cold Steel made the change in model number from 95BUS to 95BUSC when they changed sheath.
3) However to add to the confusion at the time many distributors continued to use the old model number. To a large degree this was because Cold Steel was and is still using the old boxes printed up with the 95BUS model number!!! Additionally until recently Cold Steel was still listing the old model number instead of the new on their own website.
4) Then at the beginning of 2007 Cold Steel introduced new pricing raising MSRP from $24.99 to $29.99 with the new model number. At least one major distributor continued to list the old model number on 2006 pricing and the new model number on 2007 pricing. The truth is that there is no difference at all between the knife you get when ordering using old model number and ordering using the new model number, in both cases Cold Steel fill the orders with the 95BUSC in the 95BUS box. However, ordering using the old number 95BUS costs less because the distributor is still charging old prices on orders using the old number. At the moment that's an interesting loophole to get 2006 pricing on the 95BUSC.
So if you order using the 95BUS model number, as long as the loophole holds out you will only pay $14.35 per piece. If however, you order using the new model number 95BUSC from us you would pay $17.10 per piece!!!
All the best,
Dave
OK … sorted!
…. I just realized I forgot to ask if they ship to UK ! brr