Busse - 1; Dork-Ops - 0 (Pic heavy)

Dave is the test king. Those are wicked pics Dave. Very nice bro. And although I snagged my AK on the exchange from a fellow Hog for a great price your pics were my main influence. ;)

PS: I sure hope you have more of those AK sheaths on hand. That's what I am asking the wifey for my b-day. :)
 
Mtn.Man said:
This is interesting, but is not real world testing. Chopping through a folder, the edge of a sign, and bricks is not a realistic test for a cutting sword (or any blade). It does indeed demonstrate edge retention and steel toughness, but is totally unrealistic. I would like to see how this sword would hold up in a real sword cutting test such as the Japanese do with their wet straw mats mounted on vertical boards. This sword is no doubt a great design and would serve you well for self defense if people actually still used swords for warfare and defense. Nice pics though.
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Hey Mtn.Man, I guess You have not seen all of the other AK-47 sword testing pics that David Brown, has posted? becuase if you had, maybe you woul'd understand the power of Infi!!! :confused: Its not all about warfare, defense & cutting wet straw mats! its about having a little fun & about knowing what you'r sword is capable of cutting, for survival or chopping wood & don't forget about those crazy Zombies!!! :D

Oh yea cool pics David!!! :thumbup:
 
So just how is cutting straw mats more of a "real world" test than what is shown here? I mean you have to understand that most of us see our blades as tools and to some they are both tools and weapons. We just might use our AKs to chop fire wood, hammer with, for defense, and even throw at targets. So knowing that my AK can cut through some very tough material and still be battle ready is very cool!

BTW - This is an honest question as I am totally unfamiliar w/ Japanese sword practice. I have never cut straw mats but I gurantee that if I ever use mine in a defensive situation whatever I cut will be very sad.

Now swords and other blades I am very familiar with. I have used some very fine Filipino swords such as Barongs and Bolos to do some light prunning only to see chunks of steel blow out of them rendering them pretty much useless. I understand they were not designed for chopping wood so it did not concern me. But this is why I like lines like Busse. I can have both worlds.

So for me it is great comfort to know my sword will hold up as a tool and still be a functional weapon afterwards.
 
Tyrkon Lawson said:
So just how is cutting straw mats more of a "real world" test than what is shown here? I mean you have to understand that most of us see our blades as tools and to some they are both tools and weapons. We just might use our AKs to chop fire wood, hammer with, for defense, and even throw at targets. So knowing that my AK can cut through some very tough material and still be battle ready is very cool!

BTW - This is an honest question as I am totally unfamiliar w/ Japanese sword practice. I have never cut straw mats but I gurantee that if I ever use mine in a defensive situation whatever I cut will be very sad.

Now swords and other blades I am very familiar with. I have used some very fine Filipino swords such as Barongs and Bolos to do some light prunning only to see chunks of steel blow out of them rendering them pretty much useless. I understand they were not designed for chopping wood so it did not concern me. But this is why I like lines like Busse. I can have both worlds.

So for me it is great comfort to know my sword will hold up as a tool and still be a functional weapon afterwards.
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According to the following site...

Traditionally, tameshigiri targets consist of rolled up and 'wet' tatami (straw) mats tied on a stand. When done properly, this is said to have the same "resistance" as a human body.​

The Wikipedia article for Tameshigiri implied that cutting mats is a type of standardized test, replacing the use of condemned criminals and cadavers.

The following link http://www.thearma.org/photos/Gathering03/testcutting.htm
made an interesting observation.
However, most intriguing was how a blunt and entirely unsharpened Raven bastard sword performed, cleaving smoothly through one entire mat, and on a single cut even through one with a wood core and then on into another mat. The same blade dented two helms without any edge trauma.​
Implying that there are multiple factors in blade performace.
  • sharpness
  • blade thickness
  • blade width
  • mass
  • velocity

I have NO experience with swords. But I would wager to say that Dave did a very good job testing the strength of the AK47. While the sign did test the AK47's penetration in one regard, it would be interesting to see how the sword performed on a subject with more width/thickness. IMHO, this would be a good test for the trade off between blade thickness vs penetration.

However, my guess is that any sword in Dave's hands would end up going through the mat. Maybe not in one piece, but it would definitely go through the mat.:D
 
ThunderUnderKilt: Thanks for the data. I love that stuff. I wish I had time to learn some traditional Japanese sword work. Very cool. But I am more than happy with the 15 + years I have trained Filipino blade work.
 
Wow 48 responses over a 1000 views :eek:

Thanks for all the complements everyone.

This is why I love Busse knives the toughest blades on the planet & the most supportive fans anywhere. :D

You guys rock.


Also I have chopped wood with the AK as well, & I am ordering some mats to cut, just for fun & in-case I get attacked by grass mat people :rolleyes: so I have real world mat hacking experience.

I also have a butcher friend that is going to get me some coded,(out of date) roast so I can practice cutting rotting flesh for when the zombies attack. :eek:

My thought was;
You never know what will happen, so I wanted to prove that the busse will do it. There was a story years ago about someone trapped in a semi truck cab & cut their way out with a very high dollar (over 1000.00) forged knife (I will not mention the maker name), I think most remember this one, & received lots of positive comments for it. I do not think they are making cabs out of 1/4" aluminum but if they do I know my Busse will get me out.

Throwing the AK; also stands as a statement to its strength, for flex strength & being able to hit the ground & rocks with out real damage.

Bricks; guys in Iraq have been going through cinder blocks bricks & what have you, I would think this would be a "real world" test to them.

Chopping the Dork-ops (which I got in a trade specifically for this purpose) well that was just fun, no "real world" application just fun. I think they are the Dorks of the knife world & they were ridiculous in their advertising & with invisible knives they had at the show, & stupid ad copy. We all do still like to have fun right?

I do not plan on attacking a folding chair in a rubber mask any time soon because that would be silly :rolleyes:

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Dave,
STOP POSTING THESE PICS!!!

I already have 2 AK's and 1 Ruck and I'm seriously considering another one.....stop with the pics, my budget was blown last weekend at Knob Creek and I can not afford another AK right now ;)

:D:D
 
I have some cinder blocks left over from my retainning wall. These pics are tempting me to go destroy one. ;)
 
Dave these are freakin awesome pics!! Thnx for posting them:thumbup:

Ohh and don't listen to Eric, we want more pics!!:cool: :cool:
 
Dude -- I almost convinced myself I didn't nee to keep the AK and the RUck... Now I know better, thanks!
 
Thanks David for the pics bloody ripper mate !

Can someone please tell me and excuse my nubessence for not knowing the difference between an AK and a Ruck ?

Thanks in Advance !
 
matthewb5016 said:
Thanks David for the pics bloody ripper mate !

Can someone please tell me and excuse my nubessence for not knowing the difference between an AK and a Ruck ?

Thanks in Advance !
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Here is a pic to help, 2 on top are AK's, 1 on bottom is the Ruck (That is the only color combo for the Ruck as well)


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The Ruck is also made by Busse am i right ? I`ve just never seen one before thats all .

Thanks for clearing that up for me Eric !
 
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