Busse and Bamboo

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I've been meaning to do a post about bamboo for sometime now and, after the recent though brief small uproar regarding Busse I thought that now would be a good time to do so.

Bamboo is truly, imo, one of the most amazing and mysterious plants on earth. There are approximately 1200 species of it of which about 450 are found in the Americas. Additionally, there are nearly 175 species that are found in or are suitable for true winter (up to -20f) temperatures. One black culm bamboo is even found as far north as parts of Alaska.


Its use throughout history is truly staggering. Thomas Edison made filaments from bamboo at one point. In China it has been used as bridges, as troughs for waterwheels and much more for centuries if not thousands of years. You can make arrows out of it, or needles. or weave baskets from thin strips of bamboo fiber. Properly cured, it makes a fine vessel to store fluids in. Blowguns can be fashioned out of thinner canes. fences, for fishing or other animal barriers, can be fashioned from it. The polynesian mattang was made from bamboo. Because of its buoyancy, bamboo can be used to float a net out into places where it would otherwise be difficult, if not impossible, to string a net. Simple footwear can be fashioned from it if the necesssity arises. A usable knife/scraper can be fashioned from it by stripping the fibers at an acute angle from the hard outer wall. And on and on. its uses are limited chiefly by the imagination.

Its uses are truly staggering to me and, I think, knowledge of bamboo has its place in every survivalist's arsenal whether or not he knows of any growing wild in his general vicinity.

Ok, on to Busse. It ties in, really, it does. Shortly after I joined this forum I bought a Busse Natural Outlaw because I really liked the looks of the blade, I was interested in seeing what this INFI is all about, and because of the stunning accolades and warm welcomes I percieved from the members in the Busse forums.


Now, I have a small nursery and decided that I needed an orchid hutch in order to grow my orchids as well as my limited funds would allow. Having a good supply of freshly harvested bamboo I decided to make it using the materials at hand, some paracord and my Natural Outlaw. Other than a wooden mallet, that is all the tools that were used.

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In the above photo you can see some of the bamboo that I split in the making of this hutch. To the left is a trough that held water that potted orchids could sit above to keep the humidity slightly higher than it would have been otherwise. Center are strips that were cut to add rigidity to the structure.

Now, I realize that an orchid hutch is not truly survival oriented but it is applicable, imo. For a survival shelter I would have made it shorter than the sloped 7 to 8 feet this hutch was and I would have thatched the roof (using palm fronds down here in South Florida) and sides instead of using shade cloth.

Anyway, I hammered the NO through at least 60 linear feet of bamboo. It, excepting one other Busse blade I own, are the only knives I have that I would feel comfortable batoning with as I did, alternatingly batoning near the tip of the blade and near the handle. Of course, there are other knives that this could be accomplished with but none that I own that are robust enough to handle the level of hard use I put this one through. That is not to say that they don't exist, just that I am not aware of them. I believe that this is an important feature in a survival blade as, in stressful situations, even an accomplished outdoorsman may find himself doing things that can only be termed, in polite company, as a poor choice.

Anyway, I had been clearing out some brazillian pepper and florida holly (a misnomer, it is not native and both are highly invasive down here) before doing this and the knife was no longer shaving sharp. After splitting the bamboo the edge on the NO was now able to shave arm hair with ease, something that highly impressed me. In analyzing this, I can only assume that a combination of the way bamboo is structured and the unique (to me at least) malleabilty of INFI caused it to sharpen up as I hammered it through the material.

In another thread someone referred to it as "hype". Well, that is no hype but just my own experience with it. And it made me a believer. I hope that I can be taken at my word as such.

The knife:
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Now just to show that I am not (too ;) ) biased I will say this. In the wilds, I would have used thin strips of bamboo fibers woven together to lash the hutch together rather than waste precious paracord to do the same. The NO, due to its size and edge geometry, would not be the best knife for this task. For that I would prefer a thinner blade along the lines of the Mora or, my first choice, my trusty old Blackjack Trailguide. I do think that the NO could handle the task but, much like using the Mora or Trailguide to split the bamboo, it would not be optimal, to say the least.

And the final product. I ran out of bamboo and had to finish off the cantilevers using some scrap 1x2"s that were laying around. This photo was taken several years ago after one hurricane (I forget which one!) had come through. Sadly, the hutch did not survive a second hurricane just weeks later.
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My intent in starting this thread was to open discussion about bamboo and, possibly, make my fellow forum members aware of a most worthy survival tool (the bamboo!) that has a place in every survivalist's storehouse of tricks. And also, after reading and participating in the degeneration of another thread, to show one user's experience with the INFI steel. You may or may not like the marketing, to each his own, but the steel and heat treat (both together is what becomes INFI) are not, in this user's opinion, hype at all. I've had this knife for over two years now, used it nearly every day, and never yet had to actually sharpen it. Stropping on my pant leg or, if its really "dull", a leather strop has all that has been required to get it sharp enough to shave my arm bare.

Ok. So, I'm done now. :D It seems that the other thread has calmed down and retained an air of civility and I sincerely hope that this one does the same from the start. My intention is not to inflame anyone or any situation but merely to spread some experience on two subjects that may not be known to all that frequent this forum.


heh. if you read all of that I applaud you!
 
Hey, thank you. This is really an informative thread and it's a joy to read. More importantly, do you know why? Because you're creating something, and to me, that's always a very positive thing.
 
thanks guys. I was a little nervous about posting this given the atmosphere around BF lately. I'm truly glad to know its well recieved!

In rereading my post I realized I made one glaring omission. Young bamboo shoots are also edible but they need to be harvested before they harden off. I would not suggest eating them raw but I find them tasty steamed or boiled and added to a stew. And one more. In addition to floating a net, bamboo can also BE the net if you need one and do not have one. It is as simple as taking thin strips of the fiber and tying them together in a loose weave. I could go on and on- there will always be pertinent uses for bamboo that I have forgotten to mention here. Like I said, its truly one of the most amazing plants on this planet.
 
excellent thread. Bamboo is amazing stuff. It is also like a weed. do not plant it unless you want a lot of it:D
 
That is certainly true of many types of bamboo. I should have touched briefly on this when first posting the thread.

There are two main types of bamboos, "clumpers" and "runners" and its easy to tell what they do by the name given them. If you want to plant bamboo, and don't have a large open field you would like to see quickly become a bamboo forest, it is necessary to stick with the clumping species. Generally speaking, they will form bamboo stands anywhere from 3 to 8 or 10 feet in diameter whereas the runners will send their rhizomes out in all directions, eventually forming a very thick mat and a very dense forest of bamboo. edit: Also, a retaining wall can be used for retaining runners but the cost is prohibitive for most. Most reccomendations I have read state that the retaining wall should be made from concrete or steel and go a minimum of 2 feet underground and 6 to 8 inches above. Also, they have to be checked on periodically to ensure the bamboo does not create holes in the wall or otherwise escape. Running bamboos TRULY are a weed!

Interestingly, to myself at least, Japanese villagers used to (and may still in non-urban areas) take shelter in bamboo forests during earthquakes. It is said the the rhizome matting in the ground was often dense enough to hold the earth together where otherwise it could have cracked open.

Though there is nothing that I have read about it, it is my belief that there is also a third type of bamboo, the running clumper. There is some of it at the nursery, a variegated variety, that throws small clumps spaced anywhere from 5 to 15 feet apart. Given enough land and the time for it to form a large stand, it will be a pleasure just to walk through even were it not to have any of its survival related uses.
 
thanks for the info, stuff I did not know about bamboo. I do know it is extremely tough and hit it with a knife can cause the knife to just bounce off it.
 
I must say Bambo is the best building material there is from what the nature provides us. I seen some pic of ladders in asia where they go up cliffs more then a 750ft up and some of the ladders are almost 100year old. Still stronge enough to hold a person. If i had a place to grow some Bambo i would have had it. Another problem is that when it starts to grow. Its very hard to kill it off. You need to dig the ground up and burn it. Or it would come back in a year. Nice work there and i like the pics.

Sasha
 
I must say Bambo is the best building material there is from what the nature provides us. I seen some pic of ladders in asia where they go up cliffs more then a 750ft up and some of the ladders are almost 100year old. Still stronge enough to hold a person. If i had a place to grow some Bambo i would have had it. Another problem is that when it starts to grow. Its very hard to kill it off. You need to dig the ground up and burn it. Or it would come back in a year. Nice work there and i like the pics.

Sasha

so it would be fun to plan in your friends back yard as a joke:D
 
Ilike the info so far but I do have a ? what is the talking about busse knives? Take care all,
Bryan
 
Ilike the info so far but I do have a ? what is the talking about busse knives? Take care all,
Bryan

In another thread there was a bit of an argument regarding choice of knives, etc. I'm not particularly proud of it but I did take part in it. Hopefully though, that is all behind us now.
 
Up here in Canada a lot of running bamboo tends to become clumpers because of the colder climate. I have All-Gold bamboo growing in my yard which in it's native habitat grows up to 80 feet tall, mines taken 3 years to get up to 7 feet.
 
Up here in Canada a lot of running bamboo tends to become clumpers because of the colder climate. I have All-Gold bamboo growing in my yard which in it's native habitat grows up to 80 feet tall, mines taken 3 years to get up to 7 feet.

That is interesting to me. I've heard very little about bamboo in Canada but it is not that big a surprise considering that at least one species does grow in Alaska.

Regarding the height: If you bought it as rhizome or a potted plant it will often take a good long time to attain full height. The way bamboo grows is that every new culm that comes out is taller and thicker than the last until it reaches maturity and needs to be harvested or die back. I would not be surprised that, if in the next 5 years or so, it reached heights of 30 or 40 feet. Of course, I'd be highly surprised if it achieved the height that it would in its native environments.

Have I said that bamboo is an amazing plant? :rolleyes: Whereas a field of freshly logged timber may take 30 to 50 years to produce wood again bamboo needs to be harvested, once maturity is reached, every 3 to 5 years, or the older culms go to waste.
 
Great read, thanks for the info. I always enjoy learning new things.

I have to comment about the Busse's though. I am a long time carrier, and user of their products. Previously posted I carried a Satin Jack for 6 years in the Army. 3 years in Iraq. I don't see why people can't just agree to disagree. Frankly, I couldn't care less what types of decisions people make regarding their cultlery. All I can tell you is that, when MY life was on the line, I used a Busse. It served ME well. Sorry to hijack, just venting.
 
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This is typical bamboo in my area near rural homes. Older groves can be really big.

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You can see how thick the stuff can be.
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A "Bambuzal" is a bamboo grove in Portuguese. Most rural homes have one or more groves of bamboo planted nearby to provide bamboo for it's myriad of uses. Most homes out there are ringed by split bamboo fences and it is used for walls and roof structure as well.

This particular bambuzal is loaded with really big, thick logs of bamboo. Most of the stuff that you run into is of considerably narrower gauge. I try not to take the big, healthy stalks, preferring to weed out the ones with broken tops. I did not cut the one I'm touching in the photo.

All I had was a 16 inch machete. A pruning saw is a far better weapon for attacking large bamboo. Mac
 
Thank you for the photos, pict. great stuff! :thumbup: I love hearing that bamboo is still found useful in much of the world.

I should point out the paper looking sheathing with the black fuzz on the bamboo. That fuzz is actually thousands of tiny, sharp, little needles. I believe that it is a defense mechanism to help deter foraging animals from eating it while it is still soft and young. I believe this is true because the sheathing tends to fall off once the cane matures and hardens off.

Whether I am correct about that or not, I would suggest to anyone who plans to harvest bamboo, or just play in it, that they are careful not to brush up against those sheaths. They are a bad irritant and a royal pita to get out when you have a hundred or more nearly microscopic needles in you.
 
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