Busse and Fällkniven vs the rest

And your testing and comparisons consisted of what? Hopefully more than reading posts people write on threads.

It's a big statement of fact that really is no more than opinion.

Vanilla, strawberry or peach ice cream. They've been the best for years. Is there no competition?
 
You only have 6 posts and as such will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just read a few threads and made up your mind based on mere opinions.

The questions you have to ask is best for what? Something you will come to realize pretty quickly if you stick around is that taste is subjective *points towards the busse forum* see what I mean? :P

Buy what you like thats of high quality and fits the role you expect from your tool- besides that, the "best" will be subject to interpretation and personal bias.

Welcome!
 
Becker's KaBar line will go toe to toe with any knife out there in hunting and survival

the BK2 is a great knife and affordable too
 
I would love to see the background of your "tests".

In terms of edge holding? Rockstead has both Fallkniven and Busse beat.
In terms of tolerances? Chris Reeve.
Fit and finish? Moki.
Warranty? ESEE....
Bang for Buck? Spyderco or Mora depending on price range.

Don't want to sound insulting but no...I doubt your assertiveness concerning your understanding of "best".

I haven't been collecting knives as you have allegedly but I have been into them long enough to assert that there is no best survival knife. Just the right tool for the job when you need it.

But I can sense this thread developing into a flamefest since saying that Busse and Fallkniven are the best is an invitation to all the beckerheads, spydie fanatics etc. to question the method in which you came to those conclusions.
 
forcedestrike said:
But I can sense this thread developing into a flamefest since saying that Busse and Fallkniven are the best is an invitation to all the beckerheads, spydie fanatics etc. to question the method in which you came to those conclusions.
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Hope no one takes the bait.
 
ditto to prop the polecat. when anyone comes up with such a closed definitive declaration, comments are'nt necessary since we are talking to a brickwall.--dennis
 
forcedestrike said:
I would love to see the background of your "tests".

In terms of edge holding? Rockstead has both Fallkniven and Busse beat.
In terms of tolerances? Chris Reeve.
Fit and finish? Moki.
Warranty? ESEE....
Bang for Buck? Spyderco or Mora depending on price range.

Don't want to sound insulting but no...I doubt your assertiveness concerning your understanding of "best".

I haven't been collecting knives as you have allegedly but I have been into them long enough to assert that there is no best survival knife. Just the right tool for the job when you need it.

But I can sense this thread developing into a flamefest since saying that Busse and Fallkniven are the best is an invitation to all the beckerheads, spydie fanatics etc. to question the method in which you came to those conclusions.
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Well I think he has two damn good 1st choices. I don't think CRK fixed blades have a better F&F than his 2 choices either.

there is no best survival knife. Just the right tool for the job when you need it.
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I'd tend to agree with that and add that the best one is the one you have on you when you need one in an emergency. :)
 
cziv said:
Well I think he has two damn good 1st choices. I don't think CRK fixed blades have a better F&F than his 2 choices either.



I'd tend to agree with that and add that the best one is the one you have on you when you need one in an emergency. :)
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I am a fallkniven fanboy and have nothing but respect for the hogs that being said I was merely demonstrating that there is no true best ;)

Concerning Fit and Finish I would agree that Busse/CRK are very similar with a slight nod towards CRK.

I have had the Pacific and CG Mistress side by side and the scales and general "pristine" appearance of the pacific really stunned me! Can't say enough over the flawless'ness of CRK's work.

However when mentioning fit and finish I use moki or klotzi as a reference since they are at such a high degree its very difficult for other brands to compete- I would place the Klotzi as higher than a Sebenza in terms of fit and finish although the Sebbie "wins" in terms of tolerances. I am always struck when cleaning my small 21 that there is no blade play even when the pivot is not screwed in! Now thats what you call tight!

But anyway not to go off tangent- they are all epic knife manufacturers and we are privileged to enjoy them- chest thumping by brand fanboys in my experience on various forums deteriorates into outright war very quickly (in my experiences) hence my wish to clarify that there is no real way to determine the best "general" outdoor/survival blade!

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I am a United Cutlery fanboy. They offer the most bling and the most shine for the money. And I love those cool fantasy blades. Seriously, for display blades, they are likely the best bang for the buck. For hard use, the Beckers, ESEEs, Ontario Rangers, and Condors are good. For traditional materials and hand workmanship, I like the Bark River knives. For knives built insanely tough, you can't beat Busse Combat. I'm sure the Fallknivens are right up there, but I only have the F1. But for everyday use, the Buck folding hunter seems to get the job done. Buck has sold millions of them. But everybody knows a Benchmade is better. My point is that there is no one best brand for all users. Affordability is always a factor. And most of us will never chop concrete blocks with our knives.
 
Greven said:
Is there no knife brand out there that can compet against
the two? I mean they have been the best for some time now
would be fun to hear about something else. Sure there
are other superb brands(swamprat,fehrman etc etc) but not in their leauge or ?!
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This is a false premise. I love my Busses and they are superb production knives for hard use. But other knives are "comparable". Fehrman certainly is comparable. I have an old Fehrman Hood Hunter designed by Doc Ron in coated CPM 3V that has some definite design advantages over my Busses. I don't really remember if the warranty is as good as Busse's but, frankly, I doubt I'll ever need to resort to the warranty with such a solid knife. And there are customs that can "compete", like my Wally Hayes custom 52100 camp knife, depending on what criteria you are using. There are lots of superb knives out there.

Many people have their favourite knives and makes and there are many different characteristics or criteria for what makes a knife "better" or "competitive". Everything is a trade-off in some respect. Nothing does everything "best".

A post that is so open ended ( not defining "compete" or "best" ) and so provocative ( selecting two knife brands almost randomly ) is not the most constructive way to engage the forum or get an intelligent discussion going.
 
As an avid fan, user, and collector of Fallkniven I never hesitate to extol the virtues of these high quality tools, nor to recommend them highly to individuals who are interested in purchasing one.

However, to state Fallkniven and Busse are "THE" best is really not possible to quantify.

I have many Bark River knives (and a few other brands) that I use side by side with my Fallknivens and I find the quality and performance is very similar.

To state Fallkniven and Busse hold court among some of the best knives being made today possibly holds merit, because most people who own them seem very pleased with the quality and performance of these brands.

However, I'm on side with majority here, when personal preference is one of the determining factors, it just isn't possible to qualify such a blatant statement as truth.

Kevin
 
I personally will likely never find out. Busses are too expensive for me. I can't justify spending $400 or more on a knife; it just doesn't fit my budget. Fallknivens are a bit more affordable and I may end up with one down the line.

I know Busse has a rabid following, but they're not for me. The styling, overly thick (IMO) blades and price tag steer me elsewhere.

I know both companies make damn good blades and are very high quality, but I can't stomach the prices (for the most part).
 
In my experiences I can tell you that there are only 5 brands of fixed blades I ever buy, Busse, swamp rat, scrapyard, ESEE, and fallkniven. I love all of them and consider them the best of the best outside of the custom world. However I have found that generally speaking Busse, scrapyard, and swamp rat are in a league of their own. ESEE and fallkniven a wonderful blades for the price but busse and kin blades have better edge holding and are overall tougher than ESEE and fallkniven. However I love all of them for different reasons- busse and kin for strength/ toughness, fallkniven for looks, and ESEE for their no nonsense ultra lightweight knives. There are other companies out there like bark river that I know make top notch knives as well but I haven't tried them yet. But for all intents and purposes when factoring price, tougness, edge holding, and warranty I think you'd be hard pressed to find a company better than Swamp rat.
 
As others have said, you make the mistake of assuming there is a single 'best' knife or single 'best' brand. There isn't.

It's like people who try to argue about the 'best' band. There is no 'best' band, there are only peoples personal preferences.
 
i only own one esee, but i own several busse and crks, i have only held one falkniven. i think that overall esee can stand up to both of these sure f&f are nicer in crk and busse but i feel that the toughness,design,and customer service,warranty etc. of esee can put it up there with the big boys on certain things. they dont have super customs or anything but they have fire kits and tough as nails bags, among others. everyones best is up to arguement because everybodys different, hence these forums with they re level of diverse design , makers, materials,etc. so i tried to base mine on facts and expierence rather than my first instinct to scream BUUUSSSSEEE. :)
 
As secretive as the OP's testing methods may be, and the pseudoscientific claims of expertise that "20 years of knife ownership and use" may bring....
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