Busse basic 7 vs. Fallkniven A1

I doubt if you will find anyone here that will say the Fallkniven A1 would be better.
 
I would try posting this in the Knife Reviews and Testing forum to get a less biased opinion. I would say that the Busse would be better, though.
 
I'd have to say the Fallkniven gets my vote too.

I mean, you're kidding, right? You were aware that you were posting this question on the BUSSE forum?!? What did you think we'd say?
 
Peter La said:
I would try posting this in the Knife Reviews and Testing forum to get a less biased opinion.
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What are you trying to say Peter? I mean just because everyone here knows that Busse is the BEST knife that has ever existed doesn't mean we can't give a credible opinion.

:)
 
Jarrod... Don't mind these jokers ;)

Actually, your best bet for a non biased view would be in Blade Discussion or Knife Testing and Reviews. There you may find more people who have experience with the two knives. Most the guys here are dedicated to the busse knives. Fallkniven produces some excellent knives, but I mainly stick with busse due to numerous reasons.

I think that if you are looking for the all around best knife, Busse would be the way to go. Not just because I am partial to Busses, but due to proven testing of edge holding, strength, warranty and especially the customer service. Hope this helps and if you decide to get a busse, please besure to post your review and some pics here.

Feel free to stick around as well.


Bryan
KAAK
 
jarrode93@gmail.com said:
What do yall think would do better in everything???
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The new A1's have a fairly fine convex edge, the older ones had fairly sturdy v-grinds, so you need to know which one you are using.

The convex one would out cut the Basic for shallow work, as the edge is thinner, and the higher corrosion resistance would likely give better edge retention in wet work, or cutting up acidic foods.

The A1 is also stronger as there is simply a massive amount of steel left at full stock due to the sabre grind, the Basic is still very strong though and much more flexible and many times over more resistant to impacts.

The basic chops much better, has a much more secure and durable handle, both grips have solid ergonomics and user preference will likely decide that issue.

The sheaths are not standout for either though are solid for both.

Customer service is solid for both companies, I have talked to both individuals and had no problems getting information from them, their perspective on use and the performance of their knives.

Jerry has horrible taste in beer
[*], I don't know about Peter.

-Cliff

[*] that is pretty important if you are canadian
 
welcome Jarrod!

i have both and i believe cliff has it right on. i like the scabbard on the a1 better.
if i could only own one of them i would go with the busse for sure.

peter shouldn't be drinking, but what the hey, why not :thumbup:
 
hey silas, i'm pretty sure that everyone would agree that the sebenza is the best knife :D :p



Seriously though i'd go with busse
 
Silas said:
What are you trying to say Peter? I mean just because everyone here knows that Busse is the BEST knife that has ever existed doesn't mean we can't give a credible opinion.

:)
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You just answered your own question! :D
 
"peter shouldn't be drinking, but what the hey, why not :thumbup:"

Me or the owner of Fallkniven? :eek:
 
RedEdge77 said:
hey silas, i'm pretty sure that everyone would agree that the sebenza is the best knife :D :p



Seriously though i'd go with busse
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i agree, i have both and find that the basic chops better than the sebbie or the busse folder. :thumbup:
 
I have to A-1's. An older one and a newer one with the lamnated steel. The older model blade holds a better edge and seems stiffer. The newer one seems weaker overall to me. I also have a basic 7. Te basic seems to flex a little more than the old A-1 but about the same as the new A-1. As for edge retention, the old A-1 and the Basic 7 appear to be the same although this is mostly subjective as I have not compared them. The new A-1 does not hold a great edge for long.
 
jarrode93@gmail.com said:
What do yall think would do better in everything???
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Welcome to BladeForums! I have an older A1 with the solid VG-10, and also before they started using the convex edge (I believe they had problems with the edge chipping with the standard v-ground edge). I also have a Basic 7. The A1 has a 6 1/4" blade (11" OAL), and the Basic 7 has a 7 1/8" blade (12 1/4" OAL). The weight for the A1 is 10.8 ounces, and 11.5 ounces for the Basic 7. Both knives balance just in front of the handle. The A1 has a clip point blade, and the Basic 7 is a drop point. While the modified-INFI used in the Basic series is technically not a stainless steel, I have never had any rust on an M-INFI or regular INFI Busse, and all I do is clean them with water and dry them (I use no oil or preservative of any kind on them).

While I have not used the A1, from my experience and that of others, I believe the Basic 7 will outperform the A1 (in terms of blade strength, and probably edge retention too). For my medium size hands, I much prefer the Basic 7 handle shape, size and texture compared to the A1. I like the A1, but the Basic 7 is one of my all-time favorite larger knives. I would not hesitate to trust the Basic 7 for even the toughest use.

Cliff Stamp said:
... The A1 is also stronger as there is simply a massive amount of steel left at full stock due to the sabre grind, the Basic is still very strong though and much more flexible and many times over more resistant to impacts. ...
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Cliff,

Would not M-INFI be inherently stronger than VG-10, in terms of lateral strength when bending the blade?

Gene
 
gk4ever said:
Would not M-INFI be inherently stronger than VG-10, in terms of lateral strength when bending the blade?
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The steels would be similar in strength, most stainless however break at low angles as they have low ductility, Fallkniven compensates for this by leaving a lot of steel at full thickness to raise the blade strength. The A1 and S1 are fairly solid prybars though I would prefer a much tougher carbon steel for many reasons. If you have to have stainless though, Fallkniven is a decent choice.

-Cliff
 
The way Cliff uses words like strength, toughness, and ductility still confuses me a bit at times. So far I've managed to gather that Strength= absolute resistance to bending, IE: how much force you need to make it bend at all(A1 >/= Basic). Toughness refers to how difficult it is to break by smashing it with a hammer or equally massive and hard blunt object(basic>A1). And Ductility is how far it'll bend before it finally snaps in half (basic>A1). If I'm reading you wrong tell me :p
 
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