Busse Challenge Coin?!?

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Aight... we got knives, apparel, OINK, extravaganza's, death chats, millitary over runs, preferences of alcohol and cigars.... BUT WHERE'S OUR STINKIN' CHALLENGE COIN?!?!?!?!?!?


I don't care if it's not infi. Heck, I'll even research and see about getting one made if you need. There's a local mint here and I could see what a silver coin would run.

So..... WHERE'S MY STINKING CHALLENGE COIN?

Blade East is only 255 days or something away:confused: :( :grumpy: :confused:

SEE POSTS BELOW FOR HISTORY, ETC... Just a thought, so that's why it's clustered right now
 
Yeah, I was thinking the hog holding the SH on the oink shirt with the reverse side being a nuke going off or a radiation symbol with Busse Combat on one side and something on the other.

Maybe do a total of 2 coins. One for everyone and one designed for Hogs in OINK. Wouldn't be excluded anyone, since all these piglets will probably see hogdom one day.:D :thumbup:


And I want to keep this CHEAP. I know some of us are on a budget and I don't want to make some outrageously priced coin that only millionares can afford :D :cool:
 
I have heard of "challenge coins" before, but can you explain what they are or their purpose is?
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A great way to get free beer :D Basically, you meet up at a show and at random, call out a challenge. Any said piglet of hog that can't produce the challenge coin has to buy a beer and/or a cigar for the challenging hog. That and I'm sure Jerry could use it for something as well.

Either way, it's a great way to sport something Busse :D
 
Just remember that if "you" call challange and everyone produces their coin "you" buy the next round.
 
Some history... More to follow

Challenge coin rules only apply to other individuals who also have a challenge coin. A holder of a challenge coin may "challenge" any individual who is known to have a coin. A challenge is made by withdrawing a coin and raising it in the air or by tapping it on a bar or table. The individual who is challenged is required to produce their coin within 60 seconds. If the individual produces the coin, the challenger is obligated to buy them a drink. If the challenged individual fails to produce the coin, they are obligated to buy the drink. The reward does NOT have to be an alcoholic beverage. It can be a soda or any other reward that the two individuals agree on. If a coin is dropped and it hits the floor, the ownder is obligated to buy drinks for anyone who hears or sees the coin hit the floor (provided they have their coin on them). Coin challengers are known to strike anywhere at anytime. They insidiously stalk the challenge, waiting for just the right moment to attack. An innocent bystander may never hear the challenge - only the challengee's despairing cry, "... Ah ____! I forgot mine!

According to one story, challenge coins originated during World War I. American volunteers from all parts of the country filled the newly formed flying squadrons. Some were wealthy scions attending colleges such as Yale and Harvard who quit in mid-term to join the war. In one squadron, a wealthy lieutenant ordered medallions struck in solid bronze and presented them to his unit. One young pilot placed the medallion in a small leather pouch that he wore about his neck. Shortly after acquiring the medallions, the pilots’ aircraft was severely damaged by ground fire. He was forced to land behind enemy lines and was immediately captured by a German patrol. In order to discourage his escape, the Germans took all of his personal identification except for the small leather pouch around his neck. In the meantime, he was taken to a small French town near the front. Taking advantage of a bombardment that night, he escaped. However, he was without personal identification. He succeeded in avoiding German patrols by donning civilian attire and reached the front lines. With great difficulty, he crossed no-man's land. Eventually, he stumbled onto a French outpost. Unfortunately, saboteurs had plagued the French in the sector. They sometimes masqueraded as civilians and wore civilian clothes. Not recognizing the young pilot's American accent, the French thought him to be a saboteur and made ready to execute him. He had no identification to prove his allegiance, but he did have his leather pouch containing the medallion. He showed the medallion to his would-be executioners and one of his French captors recognized the squadron insignia on the medallion. They delayed his execution long enough for him to confirm his identity. Instead of shooting him they gave him a bottle of wine. Back at his squadron, it became tradition to ensure that all members carried their medallion or coin at all times. This was accomplished through challenge in the following manner - a challenger would ask to see the medallion. If the challenged could not produce a medallion, they were required to buy a drink of choice for the member who challenged them. If the challenged member produced a medallion, then the challenging member was required to pay for the drink. This tradition continued on throughout the war and for many years after the war while surviving members of the squadron were still alive.

According to another story, challenge coins originaged during the Vietnam War. Leisure time in Vietnam was a commodity, but when it came, it was utilized to the max; catching up on sleep; writing letters home; letting off steam at the hooch bar. The latter provided to be most popular, but eventually it too could become boring and mundane. To heighten excitement and foster unit esprit de corps, Bullet Clubs were formed. These were comprised of small, elite, front-line fighters who each carried a personalized bullet from the weapons they carried in combat. The ultimate use of the bullet, usually carried in a hip pocket, was to deny the enemy personal capture. When an individual entered the Hooch Bar, he would be challenged by fellow team members to produce his bullet. If he did, the challengers would pay his bar tab for the rest of the evening. If he failed to produce his bullet, he bought the drinks for all the remainder of the night. Eventually, personalized bullets took on disbelieving proportions. Some "teamies" took to carrying 20-, 40-, or 105mm cannon shells. Clearly, these were not personalized coup de grace munitions but rather manifestations of perceived individual prowess in combat or - perhaps - on R & R. At the height of the Bullet Club's heyday, it was not an uncommon sight to see strewn across a barroom table a very respectful representation of the full range of bullets, rockets, cannon and artillery shells used in Southeast Asia. In order to gain control of the situation - and to avoid accidental discharge of the large, fully functional munitions - bullets were traded for coins which reflected the unit's symbol and pride. Each coin was personalized by a controlled number and/or the individual's name. The rules remained the same, although today they are greatly expanded. Loss of one's coins was and remains tantamount to eternal disgrace and banishment. To forget to carry one's coin in anticipation of a challenge results in a minor death.
 
So if you go to a show and forget the coin at home you are pretty much dead meat.
 
Here are some basic rules and obviously we would want to tweak them to our specs :D

"Coin Check" Rules

1. A “Coin Check” consists of a challenge and response. A challenge is initiated by either holding your coin in the air or slamming it on a table or floor and yelling “Coin Check!”
2. Individual(s) challenged must respond by showing their Coin with their own unit’s logo to the challenger within 10 seconds.
3. Anyone challenged who doesn’t show their Coin must buy a round of drinks for all challenged, including the challenger.
4. Coin Checks are permitted anywhere and anytime.
5. If everyone being challenged produces their Coin, the challenger must buy a round of drinks for all challenged.
6. If you accidently drop your Coin and it makes an audible sound on impact, then you “accidentally” initiated a Coin Check.
7. There are no exceptions to the rules. They apply to clothed or un-clothed. One step and an arms reach are allowed.
8. A Coin is a Coin. They are not belt buckles, key chains or necklaces. Coins worn in a holder around the neck are valid.

ALWAYS CARRY YOUR COIN AS A REMINDER OF YOUR COMMITMENT AND CONNECTION TO SOMETHING BIGGER IN YOUR DAILY LIFE.
 
I want a Terror Monkey Challenge coin!
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How many times can you get challenged at one get together. It seems once everyone else knows you dont have your coin, your F%#$ed.
 
So, as I read those rules, the challenger only challenges one person, not a group, right? :confused:
 
Seems like one on one challenges would keep it a bit more level. If someone challenges a group, they can hope that one out of 10-15 doesn't have their coin....of course, it'd cost 'em a lot of money if they lost. :D

I'm game either way, though. :thumbup:
 
You could also add a rule like...you must have your own coin in order to challenge someone else. If you don't and get caught, then you buy a whole round of drinks...or something more than just losing a challenge.

Dang...this could get interesting. :D
 
I know we have some talent here that can design some of these for the Boss Hog's approval :D Let's see what you can come up with boys.
 
Just like being back in the Service...

We have indeed used those coins for decades. Although it isn't always about free beer.

No reason such a fine custom can't be extended to groups who don't get shot at for a living.
 
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