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Gurwery

Gurwery

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Good Morning to All,

I just need to know the ways of, Socially Acceptable replies to secure an item.

Emailing questions does not hold a spot.

So do you say, " I'll Take It " ask your questions, then withdraw? (doesn't seem right)

I'm not asking, if I'm negotiating with the Seller to take a loss of funds. Be it, Price or PalPal funds.

I understand if someone posts, "I'll take it" at full price. They should get it! And I have backed out, as the Seller should get all They can.
You can only sell it once!

Please let me know the acceptable procedures.

Thank you,
Curtis
 
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rycen said:
Basically it's up to the seller how they want to conduct their sale thread.

Have a look through the links here

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1177581-Consolidated-Sticky-List
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This is good advice. The seller can set whatever terms he/she wants to set.

Once the seller has made a public offer to sell at a set price and specific terms, you can either respond with questions, make a counter offer at a lower price, offer a trade, offer to pay with other payment arrangements than those advertised, or contact the seller and accept the price and terms advertised. If you respond with anything other than acceptance, it's possible that before you can make a deal (create a contract), someone else may accept the seller's original offer. In that case, you are out of the picture. The only way to "hold" an item is by accepting the original price and terms, without any contingency or qualification.

This doesn't mean you should not ask questions or negotiate different terms. It just means that if you do, the item is still available for sale to the general public until you and the seller have reached an agreement. You as the buyer do not have the power to stop a sale to someone else until both you and the seller agree to specific terms.

The seller's discretion may also come into play, and if he/she feels you are working toward an acceptable deal, he/she may tell other buyers (publicly or privately) that the item is on hold while you negotiate, but that is entirely the seller's call. Again, as the buyer, you do not have the power to stop a sale to someone else until both you and the seller have agreed to specific price and terms.
 
I saw your thread , most of us have lost a knife in the same way , we emailed a question , someone else posts an "il take it " and our prize has been lost , the golden rule , post an il take it first and ask questions later , if the question is answered and it was not to your liking you can always pass it to whom ever had seconds , the man who posted the ashwacker stated clearly that the first "il take it " gets it , better luck next time brother , I wouldn't worry many nice knives will be posted for sale in the future .
 
MickeyNyc,

So, the Golden Rule is perfectly acceptable?

I just want to do the Socially Acceptable!

Thank you.
 
I agree with most everything said, but I would refrain from backing out of a deal unless you feel the item has been misrepresented. If there were people offering seconds and thirds then I might not feel so bad about it, but when I see "I'll take it" I expect people to honor their commitment. It is common for people to say "I'll take it if....." but it is still up to the seller to decide, as already stated above. Many sellers make their own rules for their own sales threads, so be sure to carefully read them.
 
amflud said:
I agree with most everything said, but I would refrain from backing out of a deal unless you feel the item has been misrepresented. If there were people offering seconds and thirds then I might not feel so bad about it, but when I see "I'll take it" I expect people to honor their commitment. It is common for people to say "I'll take it if....." but it is still up to the seller to decide, as already stated above. Many sellers make their own rules for their own sales threads, so be sure to carefully read them.
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I wasn't consenting to backing out , but I have posted and "il take it " and found out the knife had been stripped and polished by the opener and this was not stated in the post so I passed to whoever had seconds .
 
Ok. I was misled by the "post an il take it first and ask questions later" statement. Thank you for the clarification.
 
amflud said:
Ok. I was misled by the "post an il take it first and ask questions later" statement. Thank you for the clarification.
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i guess that was not the best way to say what I meant but usually what's going on upstairs comes out all wrong or at least that's what my wife says :)
 
I guess I'll just keep doing what I have been doing, but in the PM I'll state,
" Please, allow me first shot, if I am the first to show interest in your Item. Thank you "

That's honest, no Bull Xxxx strait forward.
 
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Gurwery said:
I guess I'll just keep doing what I have been doing, but in the PM I'll state,
" Please, allow me first shot, if I am the first to show interest in your Item. Thank you "

That's honest, no Bull Shit strait forward.
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There is the possibility you will still loose the knife to a clear "il take it" in the thread
 
I don't see a clear alternative to that. Seems that's just how it Rolls in the Exchange!
 
Yep. If you really want the knife then post "I'll take it" but even that isn't a guarantee. The seller might want it in an email since he/she doesn't check the forums often. It really is up to the seller. Post in the thread AND pm and/or email. If you need to haggle then you run the risk of losing out to someone else.
 
Gurwery said:
I don't see a clear alternative to that. Seems that's just how it Rolls in the Exchange!
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Not just the Exchange. That's basic contract law. Until both parties agree to price and terms, there is no deal and the seller still has the power of sale to whoever meets his/her terms first.
 
Here are my thoughts on this. If you say "I'll take it", that is the same as using "buy it now" on eBay; in other words, you are giving a firm commitment to buying the item. Saying anything less than an unconditional "I'll take it" means you risk someone else buying it.

There have been times where I was concerned about the condition of a knife, due to unclear photos and/or lack of a description about the knife's condition, so I have said something like "I'll take it, assuming it is in new condition with no scratches or other defects" – I usually only say something like this via e-mail. If the seller responds and says something like "yes, it is in mint condition without any scratches or other marks", then I post "I'll take it" in the for sale thread. I have seen others post "I'll take it per our discussion in e-mail" which could mean some questions or concerns have been answered to the buyer's satisfaction and they are ready to proceed with the purchase.
 
I would say everyone has given you good advice the only thing I will add is be polite and show your appreciation even if you decide the knife isn't for you after asking your questions. The guys in the forum are great guys and very understanding and being polite goes a long way! Good luck on your hunt hope your score the knife you want!
 
Will York said:
This is good advice. The seller can set whatever terms he/she wants to set.

Once the seller has made a public offer to sell at a set price and specific terms, you can either respond with questions, make a counter offer at a lower price, offer a trade, offer to pay with other payment arrangements than those advertised, or contact the seller and accept the price and terms advertised. If you respond with anything other than acceptance, it's possible that before you can make a deal (create a contract), someone else may accept the seller's original offer. In that case, you are out of the picture. The only way to "hold" an item is by accepting the original price and terms, without any contingency or qualification.

This doesn't mean you should not ask questions or negotiate different terms. It just means that if you do, the item is still available for sale to the general public until you and the seller have reached an agreement. You as the buyer do not have the power to stop a sale to someone else until both you and the seller agree to specific terms.

The seller's discretion may also come into play, and if he/she feels you are working toward an acceptable deal, he/she may tell other buyers (publicly or privately) that the item is on hold while you negotiate, but that is entirely the seller's call. Again, as the buyer, you do not have the power to stop a sale to someone else until both you and the seller have agreed to specific price and terms.
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Great advice here...

"I'll take it" means just that...anything less and you're at risk of getting shot out of the saddle...

I would advise against using the "I'll take it" phrase with any other conditions or qualifiers attached, such as "I'll take it, but I have a question" or "I'll take it, but I want a picture from a different angle", etc....

Keep it simple and only use "I'll take it" when you are 110% sure you want the listing with all the buyer's stipulations attached...

If there is any question or uncertainty on your behalf, just email or PM the seller and keep your fingers crossed...GOOD LUCK!!!
 
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