Busse Multicolor-Micarta Scales

[RobStanley]

Let's not forget Tigerhide G10.

 

[Don't drop it.]

Hey Rob, I might be wrong but I think that’s Tequila Sunrise ?
Oh I see what you were doing, lol . Good one.

 

[Nismo17]

Let’s not forget snakeskin paper micarta

joking

 

[dogboye]

You see what colors in my F16 handle?
Simply put, when it comes to Tigerhide, & also lesser contrast Snakeskin micarta, there are 2 things to consider:
1. There are/were many variations of these micartas load to load, cut to cut.
2. The wet test tells all. (& black micarta sometimes has a green tinge to it when dry)

Bad bet... But please, feel free to continue calling me out on handle material.. ...Yer looking 0 for 2 so far just this week

#nofilter wet test
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Not trying to take a side (although I guess I am), but to my eyes, there is a subtle hint of green in these scales as well. And I see just a hint of green on a couple of the scales that Jaxx posted after this photo.
This has turned into a very interesting thread.
I just don't see why it isn't possible to have more scales with multicolor canvas or linen micarta. I mean, people are making usable micarta in their basements and workshops. Although maybe the big suppliers aren't putting it up for sale anymore. I don't exactly know where to look for it.

 

[Nismo17]

Indeed interesting thread. Well it seems the tigerhide had many various batches and colors. Anyone know if Busse develops their own micarta in house ? I know Jerry used to play around with unique patterns and colors to create his own style back in the day. He always said they tried to re create snakeskin but could never get it to “look right” hence one of the reasons why ain’t no longer exists.

 

[Chief]

If the colors in Jaxx' photo are close to accurate, his F16 does not have green in the covers. Look at his closeup in a photo editing program like Photoshop and check the numerical values of the individual pixels. I did this in 50 or more different locations trying to find any pixels that had a higher green value than red or blue. None exist. Zoomed in I only see two layers with some bleed that causes the reddish / tan layer to look brown in some areas where it meets the black. No green.

99 percent of web photos do not have accurate colors. That's ok because 99 percent of people viewing web photos do not have accurate colors on their display device. Close enough and your brain interprets colors as it thinks they should be, your brain / eyes are amazing. Your camera is not amazing. Even my expensive full frame DSLR can only guess at the white balance based on the colors in the viewfinder and it guesses wrong 99.9% of the time. You must profile your display device (I use a Spyder Pro) to have accurate color and reprofile it as it ages. You have to take photos in RAW or NEF mode and convert to jpg using a certified white balance reference to have accurate color. You have to understand the difference between color spaces like Adobe RGB, Srgb, Apple RGB, converting them to web based colors to have accurate colors. But even if you do all that you still don't know what type device (PC, MAC, Apple phone, Android phone) folks are using to view your photos and different devices / operating systems interpret the same jpg color differently. Even different browsers interpret colors differently. For those reasons it's normal for different people to see slight variations in colors in photos on the web.

Have done professional photography, have had photos on the cover of Knife World magazine. Have spent hundreds of dollars on different white balance tools to see if an expensive ones are better than a cheap whibal or grey card. They aren't. Look at this photo of white balance tools, does the whibal look grey? If not, your device is off because it's perfect grey, shot in RAW, converted in Photoshop. Improve your color accuracy by using a certified reference, otherwise you are simply guessing.

 

[Jaxx]

If the colors in Jaxx' photo are close to accurate, his F16 does not have green in the covers. Look at his closeup in a photo editing program like Photoshop and check the numerical values of the individual pixels. I did this in 50 or more different locations trying to find any pixels that had a higher green value than red or blue. None exist. Zoomed in I only see two layers with some bleed that causes the reddish / tan layer to look brown in some areas where it meets the black. No green.

99 percent of web photos do not have accurate colors. That's ok because 99 percent of people viewing web photos do not have accurate colors on their display device. Close enough and your brain interprets colors as it thinks they should be, your brain / eyes are amazing. Your camera is not amazing. Even my expensive full frame DSLR can only guess at the white balance based on the colors in the viewfinder and it guesses wrong 99.9% of the time. You must profile your display device (I use a Spyder Pro) to have accurate color and reprofile it as it ages. You have to take photos in RAW or NEF mode and convert to jpg using a certified white balance reference to have accurate color. You have to understand the difference between color spaces like Adobe RGB, Srgb, Apple RGB, converting them to web based colors to have accurate colors. But even if you do all that you still don't know what type device (PC, MAC, Apple phone, Android phone) folks are using to view your photos and different devices / operating systems interpret the same jpg color differently. Even different browsers interpret colors differently. For those reasons it's normal for different people to see slight variations in colors in photos on the web.

Have done professional photography, have had photos on the cover of Knife World magazine. Have spent hundreds of dollars on different white balance tools to see if an expensive ones are better than a cheap whibal or grey card. They aren't. Look at this photo of white balance tools, does the whibal look grey? If not, your device is off because it's perfect grey, shot in RAW, converted in Photoshop. Improve your color accuracy by using a certified reference, otherwise you are simply guessing.

Thank you Chief For the purposes of this discussion, I didn't alter color or saturation, tint, temp, etc. actually I just cropped the 2 in the OP. (Whoops, that was in the Busse group on FB, I'll post them on this reply vvv, far right is slightly processed to remove background noise & slightly sharpened, same image as middle, which is only cropped. Left one is only cropped also.)



Late last night I tripped over an example of the tan/green/black on JohnTheTexican's F16, & immediately saw the green in his handle despite the lighting of the image while still not seeing it on mine in hand. Also noticed his has more dark (black) layers. 4 instead of 2 like mine. Haven't called Busse yet, but am still convinced mine has plain canvas Tigerhide on it.

 

[Jaxx]

Let's not forget Tigerhide G10.

What, no Tacoflage?

 

[Chief]

Jaxx I prefer the look of the center shot by far but I ain't everybody. Facebook compresses jpg files to make them smaller in filesize, bandwidth costs money. JPG compression isn't a bad thing, it's a 3 dimensional algorithm beyond my understanding that is very effective used lightly. But too much compression and backgrounds get pixelated instead of looking smooth and detail is wiped away. Free hosting services are the worst.

 

[Jaxx]

Jaxx I prefer the look of the center shot by far but I ain't everybody. Facebook compresses jpg files to make them smaller in filesize, bandwidth costs money. JPG compression isn't a bad thing, it's a 3 dimensional algorithm beyond my understanding that is very effective used lightly. But too much compression and backgrounds get pixelated instead of looking smooth and detail is wiped away. Free hosting services are the worst.

Chief , I posted these copies here from my phone directly, as I took them with its camera. These copies didn't go through FB or its "camera" (no FB compression), just straight from this phone. It's an older phone though, a Sammy 9+...wow, just realized it turned 5yrs old this month...lol I use Snapseed for most post processing & cropping/ rotate on images I take on this phone, so the far right image got processed with that app, the middle is cropped but unfiltered.
Agreed on free hosting services! I had phukobucket for years, it's hard to look at some of those images now due to PB's image compression back in the day...