Busse's.... Can't give'em away!

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I know we've all commented on this topic over the last few months, but I'll be hornswaggled if you can't turn a corner without tripping over a Busse! I was parusing that "other" site just now and between that, the exchange, and the ganzas, there is such an influx of blades, it's hard to imagine not being able to almost cherry pick a particular Busse. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. I mean don't get me wrong, I think it's fantastic that they're so readily available now, but they kinda lose some of their mystique (for me anyway).

It's good for buyers since there's so much out there right now, the prices will be getting lower on the secondary market or they just won't sell. For seller's it might be hard to get that extra scratch, and the flippers won't be able to get 2x+ for what they have (I'm sure they'll still try ;) ).

Rare and unique will always command a premium, but even they're starting to pop up for sale. Is it the economy, or just the massive influx of blades turned out by the shop lately? (Or a little of both?) I guess I'm just a little overwhelmed by the amount of choice blades being offered on the secondary market right now. [End commentary]


-Dan
 
I think it's a little of both. People needing money and lot's of production.
 
The more the merrier. Personally, I never saw any point in any of the mystique aspects of knife ownership or indeed any ownership. If I own something, it's because it works or because it looks pretty, not because it's rare or radiating of some fascinating mystique. Busses? They're tough knives that cut and hold an edge well. That's pretty much how knives are supposed to be, ideally, so that's more than reason enough for me to buy them. So quite obviously, at least I think it's a good thing that there are more Busses on the exchange and generally on the market. Now, things could be a lot better in terms of availability, but Busse has a certain business model and that works for them, so there's really not that much reason for them to change it, now is there?
 
i recently tried to sell a sus scrofa on an auction site. It did not even get a minimum bid of 200.00 So I sent it to someone for stripping, full convex, and a modified snout.

It is a buyers market for sure....
 
Elen said:
The more the merrier. Personally, I never saw any point in any of the mystique aspects of knife ownership or indeed any ownership. If I own something, it's because it works or because it looks pretty, not because it's rare or radiating of some fascinating mystique. Busses? They're tough knives that cut and hold an edge well. That's pretty much how knives are supposed to be, ideally, so that's more than reason enough for me to buy them. So quite obviously, at least I think it's a good thing that there are more Busses on the exchange and generally on the market. Now, things could be a lot better in terms of availability, but Busse has a certain business model and that works for them, so there's really not that much reason for them to change it, now is there?
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For many, the thrill of the hunt and scoring that particular something was rewarding in and of itself. They commanded those premiums because there just weren't enough out there. If you even contemplated picking something up off the exchange, it was gone before you made up your mind.

I agree that it's great to have so many options out there, and I definitley applaud Jerry and the rest of the crew on their success. To me personally, I find myself passing on more and more blades because there have been so many different releases and ganzas, and the flood on the secondary market, that I just can't seem to spend a ton of $$ when there's something else right around the corner. I'm already wondering what's after the NMFBM, and holding off on getting one if the something after is something I want more. With the way things are for me, I can't keep spending $$ so quickly before saving some more up.

If I could, I'd buy every one of them but then again, wouldn't we all? :D
 
I hear what you are saying about the "mystique" of Busse in the past. When I just started on the forums scoring a sage meaner for $300 was a come up.

The economy and toooooo many Busse being produced:barf:is prob. the main reason the secondary sux sooo darn bad for the seller but not the buyer.

The so called "mystique" of Busse is gone so now I just try to beat the chit out of most of my blades and enjoy them for the sheer quality and satification of owning some of the best blades in the world..

There are still many oldies that will fetch a premium reguardless what happens to the market. ie.. my sig ..
 
Buy them to use, not to resell, and you'll be fine.

Every time I chop branches with my FBM SE 07, I get my fill of Busse "mystique."

Flippers are certainly suffering in this market, which I imagine is just fine with Busse & Co.
 
Guyon said:
Buy them to use, not to resell, and you'll be fine.
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All of mine are used well, 'cept for one at the moment. ;)

I just wish I could afford to buy them all, but they just keep coming, and coming, and coming, and coming..... :D

Still debating on the NMFBM. Big honker for sure, but I want to know what's next. I have enough FBM's and variants to keep me satisfied.... I think....
 
Both; although I think the current economy is the bigger factor because I see lots of folks parting with their collections posting priced to sell. Buyers are hurting too, I've seen knives priced at or below release price sit on the exchange quite a while. It seems that money is tight for a lot of people right now, and even if it's not, they're worried that it could be soon so they're not spending.
 
MD13 said:
So what you're saying is you don't want to hook me up with a "U.J." special? :D
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If I hook up anyone it is usually on a completly random occurance .. Who knows, if ya bug me enough via email I may be able to work something out.. Last real hook ups I gave out was a pumpkin warden for $130 and SAR5 for $140... It seems all the blades I have left are "the ones" butttt... The DSJ and DARK are my special little reminders that there is still hope for the market .. :foot:
 
Guyon said:
Buy them to use, not to resell, and you'll be fine.

Every time I chop branches with my FBM SE 07, I get my fill of Busse "mystique."

Flippers are certainly suffering in this market, which I imagine is just fine with Busse & Co.
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Well said. :thumbup:
 
Like jnphares said the secondary market I think is just reflecting the economy at the moment. More and more I see various makes of knives coming up for sale that were once regarded as 'grail' knives.

In the end it may be better overall for the knife community as people will really look at their collections and decide what knives they really want to keep and which they can let go. The redistribution should allow some collectors or first timers to get the blades they have been after and to those who are flipping it may make them cautious in the future which will again allow others a chance at some knives.

I know I just sold 3 of my Busse blades which is almost a third of them. I didn't make a cent on them. Do I miss them? Yes. Do I now have the funds for 2 NMFBM? Yes. So easy come easy go.

In 2 years when the economy is on the rise someone will have a saved screen shot of the exchange with the low prices on it and be showing it like 'wow check how cheap those Busses were'.
 
I think its both... INFI by the truck load and the economy.

But I do wish Boss would give us a little breather and let things catch up a bit...
It would be nice if those of us who have bought a lot from him, could have
a chance to rotate out of a few without getting killed on the resale price. :(

I have a few I'd like to sell, but I don't want to do it at a loss...and
I don't want to be #154 of the same knife for sale. :rolleyes:



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We are our own worst enemy. By buying multiples with the intent to resell, the market is saturated. The older models still do well because when they originally sold guys weren't buying eight of them at a time. So what Guyon said is still true, buy what you like and use them and if they still go up in value, thats just a bonus. This economy and tightening credit may be the very simple cure to this problem unfortunately. So, for now I just buy from Busse or the store, no secondary market for me, and only what I like. Unfortunately I really like the new mistress (two of them actually)!
 
It will all even out at the end of this year, housing market will go up, gas prices down, and infi prices up, and you'll be able to enjoy the fun of hunting for your grail knife.
 
I remember back in 2008 when you could get all the BATacs and Meaners you wanted for under $350. Wow. Those were the days. Regards from 2018:)ss.
 
Elen said:
The more the merrier. Personally, I never saw any point in any of the mystique aspects of knife ownership or indeed any ownership. If I own something, it's because it works or because it looks pretty, not because it's rare or radiating of some fascinating mystique. Busses? They're tough knives that cut and hold an edge well. That's pretty much how knives are supposed to be, ideally, so that's more than reason enough for me to buy them. So quite obviously, at least I think it's a good thing that there are more Busses on the exchange and generally on the market. Now, things could be a lot better in terms of availability, but Busse has a certain business model and that works for them, so there's really not that much reason for them to change it, now is there?
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I don't buy INFI for investment and would rather more models be more readily available at "ORIGINAL" prices.


Mystique????? - Who am I trying to impress with my knife collection? Me. And I am impressed by quality knives, excellent function, worthy aesthetics, good feel and balance in my hand and "GOOD" prices. I can't justify $500 - $800 choppers. Or dust collectors. Let alone $10k - $15k in one specific design and all color options :rolleyes: - Sorry.

I don't care how rare my knives are. For all I care, everybody has whatever I have.... or 20 of them for all I care.


Further, I personally wish original prices were more attainable. :thumbup:

But, as Elen said, I don't see that changing. :(

More power to those with more money to burn than I.

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I hear ya Dan, and think its a little of both.


There was a time I would order several the BCS would get in, off exchange and from Busse. If I didn't like the feel in hand I would sell it for cost plus shipping. Usually the same week and never looked to make money. That helped me and some that missed out. I can no longer do that for fear of loosing money if I don't like it. I do go to Blade so I'll try to buy my Busse's there... after knowing how they will feel in hand.

I am also one that has always used and collected. Joined my local knife club 29 years ago and all in it use and collect. We don't collect to make money, but would not want to loose $ if we did have to sell some off.

That being said, I'm not worried about my Busse's loosing to much value. A few I would loose money on, but for the most part I could get my money back if I HAD to sell them. And at very worst I'll still have plenty of the worlds finest users:thumbup:

You just need to try to make sure you will like it before you order now. Sometimes thats hard at times without spine shots or handle width, and not getting to see/feel first.
 
Increasing production increases profits for the manufacturer.
Starving production increases profits for resellers and your competitors.
Who would you be loyal to?
I'd like to see these very useful tools readily available from the maker to the general public. If I buy a Game Warden, I'm using it as a camp knife or EDC. If I buy a Battle Mistress, it's going to cut firewood at home and cut bone at deer camp. No mystique there unless I am forced to "wonder what it would be like" to be using a Busse right now. A lot of people do just that.
I'd like to see a good stock and variety of basic models of the most widely used knives and only see limits on Custom Shop or numbered runs.
As a consumer, this is just my opinion.
 
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