Buying American ?

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Damn_Animal said:
Japan is known world wide for their great blades. It has nothing to do with them being a island ect. It has to do with their history starting back with the first Katana that makes Japanese blades acceptable for most. I love classic japanese blades, also most japanese blades are made in seki city known for excelent blades through history.



I type on an ASUS laptop 100% made in Japan and own a Toyota and a Chevy lol, wont catch me typing on any other computer and wont catch me driving anything but Toyota or an American. Fun fact, most Toyota's sold in the US are made here.
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An asus laptop made in japan? Interesting, considering asus is a Taiwanese company.
 
"Originally Posted by shecky
Buying American for the sake of buying American is hardly a noble thing to do. On the contrary, it's simply welfare and in the long run, hurts American knife companies because they learned to rely on a dwindling supply of chumps who'll buy anything with a billowing American flag on the box, rather than spend the effort to build better, more competitive products. Foreign competition gets hungry enough that they can't afford to slack off, and before you know it, the foreign product outshines the domestic in every way. And the only thing left going for the domestic product is the "USA" stamp on the tang, reduced to an embarrassment in the face of competing products.

If you really care about knives, you don't subsidize mediocrity and call it noble."


Bryan J said:
I'll take this a step further: buying American for the sake of buying American is quintessentially UNAMERICAN, in the sense that free market forces are undermined. The historical greatness of American products is a direct consequence of heavy competition within the market to satisfy consumer preferences, leading to higher quality and lower costs. The "American" thing to do is to reward the manufacturer based on real world results--their economic output--not on what flag flies over their company. We operate in a world economy.

Americans who insist on "buying American" are in reality accomplishing the exact opposite of what they intend: they are acting to reduce national wealth. Obviously they're not doing this on purpose, but out of an ignorance of basic economics.
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cgd160 said:
I will always buy American made products, if Americans are making the product I want, the way I want it.

My reasoning is the economy, I am trying to keep all my money in house. If everyone would make an effort to do this, it would help (how much, I don't know).
I'm not just directing this at Americans, everyone should try to purchase what they can from their home country. Help your local economy and spread out from there.
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This makes no sense at all - if everyone did this then it would HURT the American economy. America NEEDS to export so telling people in other countries to buy their domestic products is the same as saying "people in other countries shouldn't buy American products". America imports a lot of goods like electronics from Asia and oil from various countries, to balance that there needs to be a lot of exports.

People in all countries should buy what's good - if someone in China likes ESEE knives then they should buy them! After all there are a lot of people in America buying Chinese electronics so it balances out (or it would if Chinese people bought more American products). If the best TV you can buy is made in Japan - so you buy that, then isn't it fair that people in Japan that want the best of something that happens to be made in America should buy that? Buying the second best because it is made locally is unfair on the company that makes the best - whichever way around that is regarding countries of manufacture/purchase.

One last thing: Given the choice you should buy New Zealand agricultural & horticultural goods, I always do! :thumbup:
 
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Slidetechnik said:
Buying American is certainly important and is a good cause. I also support buying from countries that support American production by creating production jobs here(many countries in Europe, Canada, Japan come to mind...think BMW, Toyota, etc).

This is not to say China can't make a good knife, as they can, but I don't like the fact that the give/take relationship between us and them is so lop-sided. I don't support Chinese products whenever possible for this reason.
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Agree 100%.
 
Gadgetaholic said:
This makes no sense at all - if everyone did this then it would HURT the American economy. America NEEDS to export so telling people in other countries to buy their domestic products is the same as saying "people in other countries shouldn't buy American products". America imports a lot of goods like electronics from Asia and oil from various countries, to balance that there needs to be a lot of exports.

People in all countries should buy what's good - if someone in China likes ESEE knives then they should buy them! After all there are a lot of people in America buying Chinese electronics so it balances out (or it would if Chinese people bought more American products). If the best TV you can buy is made in Japan - so you buy that, then isn't it fair that people in Japan that want the best of something that happens to be made in America should buy that? Buying the second best because it is made locally is unfair on the company that makes the best - whichever way around that is regarding countries of manufacture/purchase.

One last thing: Given the choice you should buy New Zealand agricultural & horticultural goods, I always do! :thumbup:
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Yes, it makes perfect sense. The world economy will not let you buy everything made from one specific country, so foreign products are still going to be sold.
What are all the products that we export that the rest of the world can't live without and what do those products cost in other countries? My understanding is, the little we do export costs more money than domestic products.
Those questions will turn this into a political discussion.
Sorry but your post seems a little to "greedy American" to me, the whole world has problems right now, maybe it's time we all started fixing them at home before going elsewhere.
 
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Gadgetaholic said:
This makes no sense at all - if everyone did this then it would HURT the American economy. America NEEDS to export so telling people in other countries to buy their domestic products is the same as saying "people in other countries shouldn't buy American products". America imports a lot of goods like electronics from Asia and oil from various countries, to balance that there needs to be a lot of exports.

People in all countries should buy what's good - if someone in China likes ESEE knives then they should buy them! After all there are a lot of people in America buying Chinese electronics so it balances out (or it would if Chinese people bought more American products). If the best TV you can buy is made in Japan - so you buy that, then isn't it fair that people in Japan that want the best of something that happens to be made in America should buy that? Buying the second best because it is made locally is unfair on the company that makes the best - whichever way around that is regarding countries of manufacture/purchase.

One last thing: Given the choice you should buy New Zealand agricultural & horticultural goods, I always do! :thumbup:
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True, but the main problem is the lopsided trade deficit now that is killing the USA. In the past when it was more balanced things were better, a Country has to produce to keep jobs and a strong Economy. Once they stop Producing products jobs are lost and in time the economy will turn bad.

That is what is happening now, High Unemployment in the USA and it's going to get worse long before it gets better. The unbalanced trade deficit due to the Corporate Greed has damaged the USA beyond repair at this point and we will see it continue to get worse and possibly bottom out to a deep recession or Depression before it starts to turn around.

The Corporations have in effect killed the USA with their blind greed, the Writing is on the wall and all we have to do is wait for the hammer to drop, it's just a matter of time now.

They are too stupid to see the effects of what they are doing in the long term, they will bring both the Country and themselves down in the end.

There are people like me who saw this coming over 25 years ago when the mess started and we are coming to the end of the tunnel fast.

A Country of Consumers can't survive for long, it needs strong industry. In short they need to produce, not just consume, balanced trade is the key to survival in the long run.

China is doing well now because they are Producing, they even have a Middle Class now, but it won't last. ;)

As soon as the Wages start to go up and they will the Corporations will jump ship and move to another Country with cheap labor, it will happen, history will repeat itself and China will go right back down were they were before it all started.

Corporations are Pure Evil, all they care about is the bottom line... MONEY, GREED.

They don't care what they do to Countries, the environment or the Countless Millions of People or the Lives they Destroy in the process.

They are a Virus, a Plague in this world and they will bring us all down in the process of what they are doing.
 
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This kind of thread always ends up more political than knife oriented, which is inappropriate in the General Knife Discussion.

We have a Political Arena for political topics, and a Current Events forum that can handle questions of economics. By placing the topic in a knife forum, you inevitably intertwine knife evaluations with the political and economic issues that don't belong here.

This thread is closed.
 
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