Calling all Paramilitary Owners....

Django606 said:
English please? There is a difference between a design flaw and a lemon. Please learn the difference.





I was referring to the slight upwards movement of the lock when the blade is locked open. I was not talking about bladeplay. :rolleyes:

I am only repeating what I have read on the Spyderco forums several times. Whenever someone brought up the situation, I believe it was either TazKristi or Sal who addressed it as perfectly normal. It is part of the design.

If your knife doesn't do it, what are you looking at me for? I am only saying that it has been addressed several times as normal, and part of the design.
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I bet you, you can give me any manix and I can see blade play. The washes tighten it up but at the same time create that tiny space that give it blade play.

plus if you see the lock move up, there has to be verticla blade play or it wouldn't move up...
 
Once again, there is a difference between a lemon and a faulty design. You got a lemon.

Sal said it was common in a lock engineered for strength. That's basically the same as saying designed.
 
There is an distinction between the cause and the effect that must be made. The cause is being engineered for strength, and the effect is that prehaps the lock/blade has some give when positively loaded. Conversely, by saying "that's the way it was designed", the inference is the fact that the lock/blade has some give when positively loaded gives the lock extra strength. The second position leads to the conclusion that all the locks that don't have this give do not meet the design specifications, are understrengthed, and defective.
 
kel_aa said:
There is an distinction between the cause and the effect that must be made. The cause is being engineered for strength, and the effect is that prehaps the lock/blade has some give when positively loaded. Conversely, by saying "that's the way it was designed", the inference is the fact that the lock/blade has some give when positively loaded gives the lock extra strength. The second position leads to the conclusion that all the locks that don't have this give do not meet the design specifications, are understrengthed, and defective.
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Yeah good point, I mean saying its a "common" design means, there some type of flaw in some designs. It has to be concrete in every design that the lock/blade has to be a certain way, or there is a problem.

also, anyone know the sixe torx i ahve to use to tighten the paramilitary?

thanks guys
 
my para developed vertical blade play but i have sent it off to spyderco and i am waiting to see the results

oh how i miss it
 
I had a new Para, solid as a rock.

I had a new Manix, solid as a rock.

I now have a used Para, solid as a rock.

HOWEVER, I also had a used SnG, and it was such a boulder it made the Spydies lock up like pebbles. No offense, I love Spyderco, but Striders are just "different".
 
My Para has no play. I told the dealer, "don't send it unless it's solid." It was that simple.
 
I had dozens of Spyderco lockbacks and linerlocks coming and going the past 12-13 years.(yep...the old find-the-perfect-edc sickness).Two Bucks too.If i had no hammer i took the Bucks. Mine had no play.
Some Spydercos had vertical bladeplay ,some not. I had never one failing anyways. After all i think its more a part of acceptable? tolerances in massproduction. After beating them i dont have any doubt that Spydercos lockbacks can take it and are secure ( only pocketlint in the wrong notch can be a bad surprise).Maybe its just cosmetically.
A linerlock or compression lock with play is another story and should be fixed before this Knife is used. Any play there is not accetable...in some cases dangerous.

But...
the statement "Sal said it was common in a lock engineered for strength." is worring me. This means if i have a lock without play...is it a flaw or a lemon? How bladeplay (vertical) can rise the strenght of a lock is beyond me. But maybe someone here can explain this.
Jumping around and telling hear/say storys from other forums is no help for anyone.

Greetings

Sorry for my English in advance ;)
 
I also recall Sal saying somewhere that bladeplay is and should be expected after a while in all of his lockbacks.
 
On another note....

I just bought another brand new Para. It should be here on Tuesday. :) Did I mention that I love the Paramilitary? :D
 
My black para has zero blade play. My Manix has slight vertical blade play.
 
jimmy123 said:
Lame excuses, sorry but you need to check yourself before making that claim. The screws were tighten and still the same so it is the design flaw because there is blade play all over. I can tell the handle is not able to stop the blade play because no matter how much it was tighten i could tell there was always going to be play.
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My Manix has zero,zip,zilch,blade play.This knife is solid as a rock.If your knife by any manufacturer has blade, play send it back! For the money spent they will fix it if they are a reputable company.Spyderco does too much engineering for some armchair engineer to say it is a design flaw.
 
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