Calling People Sheeple

What do you think about calling people who are nervous around knives; sheeple?

  • I think they are sheeple

    Votes: 65 39.4%

  • I do not think they are sheeple

    Votes: 33 20.0%

  • I do not agree with any of the responses

    Votes: 34 20.6%

  • Bahh

    Votes: 55 33.3%
  • Total voters
    165
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Mecha said:
Damn right who didn't have a Q knife back in the 80s!

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One of those Q knives was actually the first gift my wife ever got me. I EDC'D it literally every day for like 4 years. It's beat up with the toothpick and tweezers missing and scales have been glued a couple times but I give credit because it's still very functional and the blade does TAKE and edge. Retention is less than stellar but it never failed when I needed it. Maybe they were built better 20 years ago? Mine is about that old.
 
Last week was my son's last T Ball game of the summer. After the game snacks and drinks were handed out. Lastly popsicles were also given out. The type in the clear wrap, and need to be cut open. Well, the guy who brought them didn't bring scissors. My wife called me over to cut the tops off with my pocket knife. I took out my ZT 0562CF and opened them all and some people literally ran away from me when I took it out. The ones who didn't made stupid comments like, "Is that think legal?"..... Of course a pocket knife is legal. Anyway, all the kids were happy and thought it was cool that I sliced off the tops of their popsicles.

About 5 minutes later a cop came over to me and asked to see my knife. I showed him and he laughed. A woman told him I had a machete! He walked away from me and said sweet knife.

It still amazes me how people react to pocket knives. I've been carrying since I was 16, now 40, and still hear stupid crap. My pocket knife is an essential tool. I honestly don't know how people get through a day without a pocket knife or multi tool.
 
leghog said:
If "calling spade a spade" or "the pot calling the kettle black" have racial overtones, then I'll suggest the one seeing racial overtones is actively looking for offense and to be offended.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/call_a_spade_a_spade

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search="a+spade+a+spade"

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black

https://english.stackexchange.com/q...can-idiom-pot-calling-the-kettle-black/164004
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This is a clear example of how people make something offensive out of nothing. While I know how it get construed as such but it is a stretch to do so. I know this is off topic but I think the actual subject has been well stated multiple times and we are beating the dead horse or arguing semantics or arguing politics.
 
Not to get too political about it...but, I don't take anyone seriously who uses "sheeple" or "We the People" as a descriptor.
 
I have to wonder if the charge or taunt of 'sheeple' is in direct correlation to the use of knives which are considerably overkill for light urban tasks which the majority of people manage to accomplish easily without any knife at all.

The majority of the populace are seeing the carry of a potential weapon type which cannot, in reality, have any legitimate claim to required 'tool' uses in an urban environment. I don't blame them for being nervous.

Horses for courses. The needless carry of large tactical type knives in an urban environment is not doing the knife movement any favours.

I'll go and tie myself to the nearest stake. Save everyone some time. :)
 
Pomsbz said:
I have to wonder if the charge or taunt of 'sheeple' is in direct correlation to the use of knives which are considerably overkill for light urban tasks which the majority of people manage to accomplish easily without any knife at all.

The majority of the populace are seeing the carry of a potential weapon which cannot, in reality, have any legitimate claim to required 'tool' uses in an urban environment. I don't blame them for being nervous.

Horses for courses. The needless carry of large tactical type knives in an urban environment is not doing the knife movement any favours.

I'll go and tie myself to the nearest stake. Save everyone some time. :)
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You do have a point I am guilty of at least wanting to own a knife that really is a weapon and not a tool, a Karambit, unless I'm out in a field doing manual labor cutting crops by hand like the original tool it was based upon. It would likely be a knife I wouldn't carry too often and I would just carry traditional pocket knives that scare almost no one to do the tasks I do on a day to day basis with some options to take with me on hunting, fishing, or camping.
 
I think it's a dumb term that's slightly derogatory. My experience with the term sheeple is in the concealed carry world (handguns carried for self defense). Some people use the terms:
  • Sheeple (normal masses who don't try to protect themselves and would be unprepared if something bad went down)
  • Wolf (criminal or predator who is looking to hurt or take advantage of someone)
  • Sheepdog (self appointed term for people who carry a gun to defend themselves and others)
I don't like the terms myself. Sheeple is mildly insulting, wolf makes sense in this context, and sheepdog makes sense for a cop but I don't like it for the average concealed carry holder. When I concealed carry a gun it's to protect me and my family. There are instances where I would step in to help someone but that's a dangerous thing and you have to be 100% sure you are helping the right person. In most cases I would rather be a good witness and let the cops do their job.
 
sixate said:
Last week was my son's last T Ball game of the summer. After the game snacks and drinks were handed out. Lastly popsicles were also given out. The type in the clear wrap, and need to be cut open. Well, the guy who brought them didn't bring scissors. My wife called me over to cut the tops off with my pocket knife. I took out my ZT 0562CF and opened them all and some people literally ran away from me when I took it out. The ones who didn't made stupid comments like, "Is that think legal?"..... Of course a pocket knife is legal. Anyway, all the kids were happy and thought it was cool that I sliced off the tops of their popsicles.

About 5 minutes later a cop came over to me and asked to see my knife. I showed him and he laughed. A woman told him I had a machete! He walked away from me and said sweet knife.
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That reminds me of something I saw on TV several years ago. For some reason one day (night?) I was watching coverage of a court trial, and showed a photo of a Spyderco Military, which had been used (fatally) in self-defense against an attacking street thug, and was in evidence. On seeing the photo, the host of the show, Nancy Grace, became belligerent, brought her purse up, emptied it on the desk in front of her and said, "That's a machete! Who the hell walks around with a machete in their pocket? NO ONE! You see this?" (indicating the contents of her purse). "This right here is the deadliest thing I carry! A nail clipper! This is all I need! Nobody needs a machete in his pocket!"

I still wouldn't refer to her or those who think like her as sheeple. I might have other words in my mind for someone like that, but they are very individual-specific, and I keep them to myself.

Jim
 
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22-rimfire said:
So the women are just practical. We all should be practical.

Knives with two hands..... hell, most of the time I have to open my knife with two hands as all I have with me is a SAK or a traditional. But I can close them one-handed. ;)
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If knives are available, I would hardly call using keys or scissors as a knife practical.
 
James Y said:
That reminds me of something I saw on TV several years ago. For some reason one day (night?) I was watching coverage of a court trial, and showed a photo of a Spyderco Military, which had been used (fatally) in self-defense against an attacking street thug, and was in evidence. On seeing the photo, the host of the show, Nancy Grace, became belligerent, brought her purse up, emptied it on the desk in front of her and said, "That's a machete! Who the hell walks around with a machete in their pocket? NO ONE! You see this?" (indicating the contents of her purse). "This right here is the deadliest thing I carry! A nail clipper! This is all I need! Nobody needs a machete in his pocket!"

I still wouldn't refer to her or those who think like her as sheeple. I might have other words in my mind for someone like that, but they are very individual-specific, and I keep them to myself.

Jim
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I would love to see that clip. I have a sever dislike for Nancy Grace. One of my favorite clips of her was when she was caught with another CNN reporter lying about their locations. One was supposed to be in one city and the other in another city, states away. Turns out they were in the same parking lot, a few feet apart.
 
James Y said:
That reminds me of something I saw on TV several years ago. For some reason one day (night?) I was watching coverage of a court trial, and showed a photo of a Spyderco Military, which had been used (fatally) in self-defense against an attacking street thug, and was in evidence. On seeing the photo, the host of the show, Nancy Grace, became belligerent, brought her purse up, emptied it on the desk in front of her and said, "That's a machete! Who the hell walks around with a machete in their pocket? NO ONE! You see this?" (indicating the contents of her purse). "This right here is the deadliest thing I carry! A nail clipper! This is all I need! Nobody needs a machete in his pocket!"

I still wouldn't refer to her or those who think like her as sheeple. I might have other words in my mind for someone like that, but they are very individual-specific, and I keep them to myself.

Jim
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I would not call her sheeple, myself. A wolf in sheeple clothing, maybe...
 
Yeah, I probably wouldn't use the term sheeple to describe people like her. It lacks the impact of a far more fitting word, twunts.


The are situations in which the likeliness of me having legitimate uses for an object are incredibly low. A fountain pen in a public swimming baths springs to mind. And I am open to the argument that it is unlikely that anyone else would have a legitimate use for having one there either. However, I'm am not egocentric enough to believe that just because I can't that everyone else necessarily can't either.

Egocentricity is a lot of what I can see propelling the problem here. When the trend is toward a culture of people leading inauthentic lives that don't actually do anything real in meatspace it is too easy for them to assume nobody else does either. They toddle around with their fake lumbersexual beards, drinking their fake coffee, smoking their fake cigarettes, hooked in to their fake friends on facebook, so plugged into their phones that they now they walk funny in a uber-modern push button land in which they just need to pull a leaver to get a reward. And if anything goes wrong they just need to push another button and an oompa loompa scurries out and fixes it for them.

Of course whilst those people are locked into a land of the selfie-stick and the narcissus complex they know little of anything beyond what the Kardishans are doing. They have no idea when or why I might need duct tape, a pair of pliers, a knife, a bit of string, a pen, etc. Ever heard one of them on seeing a knife ask “what is that for”? They genuinely don't know. It's like they've encountered something from the Amazon or Star Trek. Is this a wind-up you wonder. Do these people not know all the things a knife can be used for and want me to list them? Are these people even the same species? That right these is where the egocentricity comes in. I have no idea what it is like to be a bat. I have no idea what it is like to be in the space shuttle, or the things I might find useful there. Yet I am smart enough to know it. That's not so with these twunts. Egocentrically, they know nothing of what it is like be a normal human being outside the synthetic like camera monitored lab that they live in, and they suppose because they have no use for these things neither do you.

That's really the problem with these transmogrified twunts. It may well be easy to nagivate the little lands they have built with nothing more than a pair of nail clippers. However, if they got their heads out of the jacksies for long enough they would identify that outside of that little twatspace land they would be weedy, ineffectual and rather helpless.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
When enough people with irrational fears get together with mass media while congress is in session, this is almost always what happens. Or, even worse, the President or chief executive uses hysteria as an excuse to limit our freedoms by expanding his own powers
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I honestly wonder if there's something particularly difficult about reading and respecting the rules as they pertain to politics outside of the political arena.[/QUOTE]
Do rules of politics apply outside of politics? Because there don't seem to be any rules in politics;"whatever we can get away with" may apply to everyone, but representing the people of a state or district then following senior leaders' orders to vote based on the most generous lobby seems much worse
 
T. Erdelyi said:
Because they always think there's another ahole on the far right. ;)
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My "leaning left" comment was based upon the fact that I have never seen anyone that could be considered a sheeple without having most of the traits of the left's political agenda. Nothing more.

If someone wants to call me an ahole because I am right wing, that's fine. Have at it. Won't be the first time.

If I am an ahole because I carry a knife, so be it. But, unlike many sheeple, I don't have an agenda to force people into my way of thinking. If you don't want to carry a knife, that OK but, you can expect me to role my eyes when you ask to borrow my knife three days in a row.

Personally, I'd love to see more people carry a pocket knife. We would have less need for over designed packaging and maybe slightly lower prices because of it. The knife is a practical tool, nothing more. I don't consider a knife (or gun) a weapon unless it is being used as such and that is based upon the actions of an individual. Also, I do understand there is a defensive side to the term weapon. Something most sheeple seem to miss.
 
Yonose said:
Do rules of politics apply outside of politics? Because there don't seem to be any rules in politics;"whatever we can get away with" may apply to everyone, but representing the people of a state or district then following senior leaders' orders to vote based on the most generous lobby seems much worse
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I'm talking about the rules of this forum. The ones you agreed to follow when you signed up. No politics outside The Political Arena.
 
sabre cat said:
I would not call her sheeple, myself. A wolf in sheeple clothing, maybe...
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Just plain ignorant. I guess she would call a policeman's sidearm a "weapon of genocide." A spyderco military is a tool like a machete but that is where the similarity ends. A lot of people who have never worked with their hands before don't know the difference between a forklift and a handjack, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing.Arguing with someone like her would be like taking a bath in mud.
 
Yonose said:
Just plain ignorant. I guess she would call a policeman's sidearm a "weapon of genocide." A spyderco military is a tool like a machete but that is where the similarity ends. A lot of people who have never worked with their hands before don't know the difference between a forklift and a handjack, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing.Arguing with someone like her would be like taking a bath in mud.
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Ignorant? Me or her? If your talking about me, you may have a point. There's lots of things I have no clue about.
If it's her, I'm not sure I agree with you. True, she may not know the facts on both sides so she could be considered ignorant. However, she knows exactly what she is doing and has an agenda.
 
PirateSeulb said:
You do have a point I am guilty of at least wanting to own a knife that really is a weapon and not a tool, a Karambit, unless I'm out in a field doing manual labor cutting crops by hand like the original tool it was based upon.
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Well, as one of the knives I always carry is a karambit, I use it as a tool when a curved blade would work better.
As I live in a city, most of those times are in a city...around people...
And no one cares! All they see is a small knife being used as a tool.

Of course, I don't yell "Wooshaw!!!" and spin it around before making the cut. :D
 
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